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Should Black lives matter to me anymore?

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Gnug215 wrote:Thenexttodie, you're making so little sense now that it borders on de-railing.


Are you honestly expecting anything else?


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Gnug215 wrote:Thenexttodie, you're making so little sense now that it borders on de-railing.


Laurens wrote:I agree. Literally no idea what that last post was about.

I'm done here for now


You never provided enough evidence to support your claim. That's the problem.
Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:21 pm
LaurensSocial EditorUser avatarPosts: 2916Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:24 pmLocation: Norwich UK Gender: Male

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Gnug215 wrote:Thenexttodie, you're making so little sense now that it borders on de-railing.


Laurens wrote:I agree. Literally no idea what that last post was about.

I'm done here for now


You never provided enough evidence to support your claim. That's the problem.

I did provide citations. A lot more than you did
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thenexttodie wrote:You never provided enough evidence to support your claim. That's the problem.

Laurens wrote:I did provide citations. A lot more than you did
All I'm saying is that the reason why more blacks are busted for possession in the UK could be that most of the street dealers are black. I know fuck all about the UK, I asked you if most of the street dealers are black there and you said you didn't know so I I don't know either.

Is it all just racism or is it the just the most efiencent way for a police task force to operate? Or could it be something else. It's a mystery. Maybe someday you can solve the mystery?
Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:43 pm
LaurensSocial EditorUser avatarPosts: 2916Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:24 pmLocation: Norwich UK Gender: Male

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thenexttodie wrote:All I'm saying is that the reason why more blacks are busted for possession in the UK could be that most of the street dealers are black. I know fuck all about the UK, I asked you if most of the street dealers are black there and you said you didn't know so I I don't know either.

Is it all just racism or is it the just the most efiencent way for a police task force to operate? Or could it be something else. It's a mystery. Maybe someday you can solve the mystery?


Firstly is that ethnic minorities are on lower incomes in the UK. The link between poverty and crime is well documented.

So with a higher percentage of ethnic populations below the poverty line, it wouldn't be surprising if higher percentages of these populations are convicted of crimes. This doesn't do much to argue that this isn't about racism.

Its about socio-economic bias towards white people. The white people own the businesses that provide jobs. White people get to decide who is promoted and who isn't. White people get to decide who is at the top and who isn't, because they started out on top by pure chance of literally being in the right geographical location. Rich white males let more rich white males in at the top, and everyone else has to deal with the consequences of it.

A lot of black kids grow up poor, get sent to poor schools, have little prospects ahead of them because they were born on the wrong side of a social divide. What do poor people with little prospects for getting rich conventionally do to get rich? They turn to crime.

So to approach the discussion from another angle, crime is not a symptom of race, it's a symptom of poverty. It just so happens that a lot of black and ethnic minorities are living below the poverty line because rich white men only like rich white men. Society inherently favours rich white males, this is what black lives matter is about.
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thenexttodie wrote:All I'm saying is that the reason why more blacks are busted for possession in the UK could be that most of the street dealers are black. I know fuck all about the UK, I asked you if most of the street dealers are black there and you said you didn't know so I I don't know either.

Is it all just racism or is it the just the most efiencent way for a police task force to operate? Or could it be something else. It's a mystery. Maybe someday you can solve the mystery?


The link between poverty and crime is well documented.


Correlation does not imply causation.
Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:38 pm
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Laurens wrote:So with a higher percentage of ethnic populations below the poverty line, it wouldn't be surprising if higher percentages of these populations are convicted of crimes. This doesn't do much to argue that this isn't about racism.


In America, the less money you have, the more likely you are to be fucked in court. It's the same for everybody. I don't know how you Europeans are only now beginning to understand this. Metallica did an entire album about the corruption of the US Judicial system back in 1983!

Laurens wrote:Its about socio-economic bias towards white people. The white people own the businesses that provide jobs. White people get to decide who is promoted and who isn't. White people get to decide who is at the top and who isn't, because they started out on top by pure chance of literally being in the right geographical location. Rich white males let more rich white males in at the top, and everyone else has to deal with the consequences of it.


That's a fairytale. Business owners don't give a flying FUCK who their underlings hire to fulfill whatever bullshit position they need to have filled. Thats what they pay their underlings to do. All a business owner is really thinking about is, "Should I sell, it or should I keep it or should I move it to Mexico"

Some exception could be made for small business owners. Running a small business can be a nightmare to begin with. They suck. But even if a Landscaping service or a cleaning service was owned by a white person, I doubt that person would be like "There's no way I'm going to hire a nigger for cleaning toilets, I'm gonna hire be another white boy just like me!"

I know Europe has a major problem with racism. But what you are saying, I feel is so removed from reality, that I don't think you are able to add anything rational.
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