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Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2441Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

thenexttodie wrote:
hackenslash wrote:What does that have to do with Trump being a serial sexual predator and probable child rapist?


You have not presented any real evidence of either 2. But I think Trump is probably an atheist and since he supports killing children before they are born, it would not surprise me if he also would rape them as well.



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Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:59 pm
LaurensSocial EditorUser avatarPosts: 2916Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:24 pmLocation: Norwich UK Gender: Male

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It seems to me like pure pragmatism that thankfully I don't have to partake in. Like the choice between someone pissing on your carpet or a maniac pissing down your throat. Sure having a puddle of piss on your nice rug is inconvinient but its better than the other option.

Hilary isn't that bad. She's just a regular politician. The kind that always piss on your rug cause that's what they do. They give non-commital answers, speak in soundbites, make promises they won't keep, and so on. She has experience though and she'll give you the status quo.

Trump on the other hand is a swaggering fuck train to hell. If he wins future geologists will pinpoint the collapse of civilization to the Obama/Trump boundary, where a mysterious layer of placards with the the slogan "make America great again" resides in the geological column. That might sound like hyperbole, but to have a climate change denier in the most powerful office on earth at a point in time when we pretty much have to leave all the rest of the fossil fuels in the ground or we are totally fucked is civilizational suicide. Maybe I overstated things a bit, but I strongly feel that this is the case. We're probably fucked anyway, but Trump is a certified way to stagger in a coked up frenzy towards the apocalypse.

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:48 am
VisakiUser avatarPosts: 640Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:26 pmLocation: Helsinki, Finland Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

You know I honestly believe that Trump wouldn't be as much of a disaster as president as people fear. Sure he has ego the size of the Halleys comet, temper worse than my 6 year old niece and skillset more akin to an armadillo, but I do think much of the rhetoric is pandering to the hard line republican voters. So, like most politicans but to the Nth degree, he's stances would chance when he got into office.

Then again does one want to take the risk that he is just as unhinged as he portrays him self to be?

P.S. That Trump coke thing is just silly. Like republican silly, which is the gold standard of sillyness in American politics.
Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:11 pm
ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 4980Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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That's not why he's dangerous. It's because he doesn't care about the position beyond the right to brag about it. This gives opportunity to people like Peter Thiel, let alone his VP. Pence with the reins is one of the worst outcomes.
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Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:54 pm
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2716Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

Greetings,

In my opinion, Trump is a negative populist - he's tapping into, and selling, fear and loathing.

Like a lot of moguls, he's gone through life being used to getting whatever he wants - I can't see him sitting quietly in the WH being told what he can and can't do by Congress. The Republicans may complain about Obama's executive over-reach - for which they are responsible, since they wouldn't work with him on anything - but wait until Trump wins the WH, he'll be telling everybody else what to do.

He appears to be all façade with little substance.

One thing I found interesting was a comment by someone from the SNL show: Trump was eating sweets by the handful.

This is symptomatic of someone who's used to instant gratification - which helps explain his comments about just going in for kissing - or groping - women he fancies without their consent.

There were some studies done where a child was left in a room with a plate of biscuits, and told not to touch them by the researcher before leaving the room.

They found a correlation in that those who didn't touch the biscuits - or waited the longest before doing so - had a higher IQ.

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:15 pm
WarKChat ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 1148Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:59 am Gender: Tree

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

Today I've learnt that Trump wants to introduce a limit on how many terms MP can serve. 6 years for one chamber and 12 for the other.
Looks like he has more good ideas than Hillary. It's ok to vote for him.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/19/donald-trump-on-congress-term-limits-i-will-drain-washington-swamp-video
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:18 pm
VisakiUser avatarPosts: 640Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:26 pmLocation: Helsinki, Finland Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

WarK wrote:Today I've learnt that Trump wants to introduce a limit on how many terms MP can serve. 6 years for one chamber and 12 for the other.
Looks like he has more good ideas than Hillary. It's ok to vote for him.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/19/donald-trump-on-congress-term-limits-i-will-drain-washington-swamp-video

The limitations on lobbying also sound nice. I mean if you can't serve but two terms and can't join a big lobbying block after that the politicians might have to to some actual work after serving. Though claiming that the term limits will end government corruption and economic stagnation (for some undefined reason) is more than a bit optimistic.
Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:02 am
MarsCydoniaUser avatarPosts: 310Joined: Fri May 16, 2014 4:15 pm

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

WarK wrote:Looks like he has more good ideas than Hillary. It's ok to vote for him.

In the event that this was true, the good would still need to outweigh the bad. It doesn't.
Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:43 pm
VisakiUser avatarPosts: 640Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:26 pmLocation: Helsinki, Finland Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

Because some humor is always good:

Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:07 am
Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2441Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

So, thenexttodie, did we answer your question?
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Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:46 pm
thenexttodiePosts: 477Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:59 pm Gender: Male

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Gnug215 wrote:So, thenexttodie, did we answer your question?


Yes. Absolutely.
Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:02 pm
Grumpy SantaPosts: 230Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:27 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

Visaki wrote:
WarK wrote:Today I've learnt that Trump wants to introduce a limit on how many terms MP can serve. 6 years for one chamber and 12 for the other.
Looks like he has more good ideas than Hillary. It's ok to vote for him.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/19/donald-trump-on-congress-term-limits-i-will-drain-washington-swamp-video

The limitations on lobbying also sound nice. I mean if you can't serve but two terms and can't join a big lobbying block after that the politicians might have to to some actual work after serving. Though claiming that the term limits will end government corruption and economic stagnation (for some undefined reason) is more than a bit optimistic.


They're not his ideas however, just something from someone else's playbook he's regurgitating to give the illusion that he has policy ideals. Playing to the crowd, nothing he could actually pass or would even be bothered trying to pass.
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Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:55 pm
thenexttodiePosts: 477Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:59 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

It seems the FBI really does not want her to be the next President. It must be because Hillary Clinton has evidence of massive corruption at the Federal Bureau of Investigation which she will finally be able to expose once elected.

They are probably working with the KGB :) .
Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:56 pm
VisakiUser avatarPosts: 640Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:26 pmLocation: Helsinki, Finland Gender: Male

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thenexttodie wrote:It seems the FBI really does not want her to be the next President. It must be because Hillary Clinton has evidence of massive corruption at the Federal Bureau of Investigation which she will finally be able to expose once elected.

They are probably working with the KGB :) .

More likely is that Comey as a republican thinks that he'll be replaced as the director in the Clinton administration and wanted to get a foot in the possible Trump train. After all he is a pretty hard line republican. It was very much like Obama to appoint him as part of his "lets do what republicans want and maybe they won't block everything I try" initiative (which was an abysmal failure). I haven't heard anyone claim (before you that is) that it was because the FBI is corrupt (didn't Trump actually claim that the FBI was corrupt when they didn't find any illegalities in the Clinton email scandal?).

That's just guessing though but the timing on that non-information was pretty telling I think.
Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:32 am
Grumpy SantaPosts: 230Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:27 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

WarK wrote:Today I've learnt that Trump wants to introduce a limit on how many terms MP can serve. 6 years for one chamber and 12 for the other.
Looks like he has more good ideas than Hillary. It's ok to vote for him.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/19/donald-trump-on-congress-term-limits-i-will-drain-washington-swamp-video


Would require Congress to vote it into law. Good luck with that. It's nothing more than vaporware leaking from a gasbag.
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Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:48 am
VisakiUser avatarPosts: 640Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:26 pmLocation: Helsinki, Finland Gender: Male

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Grumpy Santa wrote:Would require Congress to vote it into law. Good luck with that. It's nothing more than vaporware leaking from a gasbag.

I believe that quite a few of Trumps declarations are such that he can't just speak them into existence even if he is the president. As hard as Trump would want to be a dictator, in the US president have limits to their power.
Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:49 am
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Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

Should Trump become president I believe he would been in for a somewhat rude awakening as to what the POTUS can actually do.
Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:17 am
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2716Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

Greetings,

Didn't seem to bother Cheney, did it? :roll:

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Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:04 pm
thenexttodiePosts: 477Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:59 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Why do you support Hillary?

The woman who said Trump raped her when she was 13 has dropped her case. I don't think this is how the system should work.
Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:56 pm
tuxboxLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 1172Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:05 amLocation: Vero Beach Gender: Tree

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thenexttodie wrote:The woman who said Trump raped her when she was 13 has dropped her case. I don't think this is how the system should work.


She admitted that she made the whole thing up.
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