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Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:58 pm
by Laurens
President Trump is a crazy guy. He should be in jail. I've met him, he's a nice guy, really nice guy. One of the best. Great hair. Small hands. You should never trust a guy with small hands. Nice guy, but he's crazy. He says crazy things. You've heard it. I've heard it. We've all heard crazy things. Put him in jail. Never let him out. Keep him in there forever. You just can't trust the guy. Have you seen him? I've seen him. He's a bad man. Should be in jail. I've got friends. Rich friends. Powerful friends. The best friends. They say to me "you can't just put a man in jail". Yes I can. I will. He's evil. I don't like him. Can't trust him.

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:44 pm
by he_who_is_nobody
Laurens wrote:President Trump is a crazy guy. He should be in jail. I've met him, he's a nice guy, really nice guy. One of the best. Great hair. Small hands. You should never trust a guy with small hands. Nice guy, but he's crazy. He says crazy things. You've heard it. I've heard it. We've all heard crazy things. Put him in jail. Never let him out. Keep him in there forever. You just can't trust the guy. Have you seen him? I've seen him. He's a bad man. Should be in jail. I've got friends. Rich friends. Powerful friends. The best friends. They say to me "you can't just put a man in jail". Yes I can. I will. He's evil. I don't like him. Can't trust him.


Are you drunk or just channeling the Donald?

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:48 pm
by Laurens
he_who_is_nobody wrote:
Laurens wrote:President Trump is a crazy guy. He should be in jail. I've met him, he's a nice guy, really nice guy. One of the best. Great hair. Small hands. You should never trust a guy with small hands. Nice guy, but he's crazy. He says crazy things. You've heard it. I've heard it. We've all heard crazy things. Put him in jail. Never let him out. Keep him in there forever. You just can't trust the guy. Have you seen him? I've seen him. He's a bad man. Should be in jail. I've got friends. Rich friends. Powerful friends. The best friends. They say to me "you can't just put a man in jail". Yes I can. I will. He's evil. I don't like him. Can't trust him.


Are you drunk or just channeling the Donald?


I was just trying to argue against him on his level

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:56 am
by Laurens
To be honest I wish I was drunk all the time

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Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:27 pm
by thenexttodie
Laurens wrote:To be honest I wish I was drunk all the time

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Laurens, I know I am just a dumb creationist and that you do not like me. I used to party alot and a never thought It had it had much of negative impact on my life. I still do, just not as much as before..

You will eventually reach a point in life where you would not want to have a reputation of being a drunk or a drug user. I don't think it is fair to judge people this way, but you are better than this.

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:14 am
by Gnug215
thenexttodie wrote:
Laurens wrote:To be honest I wish I was drunk all the time

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Laurens, I know I am just a dumb creationist and that you do not like me. I used to party alot and a never thought It had it had much of negative impact on my life. I still do, just not as much as before..

You will eventually reach a point in life where you would not want to have a reputation of being a drunk or a drug user. I don't think it is fair to judge people this way, but you are better than this.



thenexttodie, I know I'm just a dumb evolutionist and that you do not like me. I used to be unable to determine when people weren't being serious in comments. I still do, just not as much as before.

You will eventually reach a point in your life where you would not want to have a reputation of being oblivious to the concepts of sarcasm and humor. I don't think it's fair to judge people this way, but you are better than this.


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(sorry, couldn't resist...)

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:23 am
by Laurens
Sorry thenexttodie I apologise if my post triggered you

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:57 pm
by thenexttodie
:lol: Ok, fuck it!

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:44 pm
by Dragan Glas
Greetings,

Interesting recent study on the relationship between religion and gun-ownership in the US:

Religious involvement lessens likelihood of owning a handgun

Clearly, being positively involved in a community with a large social network, as against a "me against the (sinful) world" negative mentality, makes all the difference.

Kindest regards,

James

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:16 pm
by thenexttodie
Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

Interesting recent study on the relationship between religion and gun-ownership in the US:

Religious involvement lessens likelihood of owning a handgun

Clearly, being positively involved in a community with a large social network, as against a "me against the (sinful) world" negative mentality, makes all the difference.

Kindest regards,

James


Great link. Makes a lot of sense. I used to carry a gun as a "me against the world" type but quickly realized it was not really needed because of my large social network of criminals.

In America, the church can also be a great network. You are far more likely to meet the owner of a multi-million dollar company at church than at the unemployment office.

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:05 pm
by Steelmage99
thenexttodie wrote: You are far more likely to meet the owner of a multi-million dollar company at church than at the unemployment office.


That sounds suspiciously like a deepity.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:deepity

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:26 am
by thenexttodie
thenexttodie wrote: You are far more likely to meet the owner of a multi-million dollar company at church than at the unemployment office.


Steelmage99 wrote:That sounds suspiciously like a deepity.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:deepity


Do you really think you would meet such people at the unemployment office? I think you possibly might be insane.

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:34 am
by Dragan Glas
Greetings,

thenexttodie wrote:
Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

Interesting recent study on the relationship between religion and gun-ownership in the US:

Religious involvement lessens likelihood of owning a handgun

Clearly, being positively involved in a community with a large social network, as against a "me against the (sinful) world" negative mentality, makes all the difference.

Kindest regards,

James

Great link. Makes a lot of sense. I used to carry a gun as a "me against the world" type but quickly realized it was not really needed because of my large social network of criminals.

Is that sarcasm?

thenexttodie wrote:In America, the church can also be a great network. You are far more likely to meet the owner of a multi-million dollar company at church than at the unemployment office.

The point is that one is actively involved in a community rather than being a loner - aka, "failed joiner", which is what those with a "me against the world" attitude tend to be.

Kindest regards,

James

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:15 am
by thenexttodie
Dragan Glas wrote:Is that sarcasm?


No! I think it was an interesting study which I could relate to and I never knew that such a study had been done. Thank you.

thenexttodie wrote:In America, the church can also be a great network. You are far more likely to meet the owner of a multi-million dollar company at church than at the unemployment office.

Dragan Glas wrote:The point is that one is actively involved in a community rather than being a loner - aka, "failed joiner", which is what those with a "me against the world" attitude tend to be.

Kindest regards,

James


Do you think atheists can be "failed joiners"?

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:47 am
by Dragan Glas
Greetings,

thenexttodie wrote:
Dragan Glas wrote:Is that sarcasm?


No! I think it was an interesting study which I could relate to and I never knew that such a study had been done. Thank you.

I was referring to your comment regarding your "large social network of criminals"(!)

thenexttodie wrote:
thenexttodie wrote:In America, the church can also be a great network. You are far more likely to meet the owner of a multi-million dollar company at church than at the unemployment office.

Dragan Glas wrote:The point is that one is actively involved in a community rather than being a loner - aka, "failed joiner", which is what those with a "me against the world" attitude tend to be.

Kindest regards,

James

Do you think atheists can be "failed joiners"?

Anyone can be a failed joiner - as the study shows regarding overly-religious conservative people with a judgmental attitude towards others.

Remember, calling someone an atheist is like a Jew calling non-Jews "gentiles", Christians calling non-Christians "heathen", and Muslims calling non-Muslims "infidels" (literally "without faith"!).

"Atheists" have beliefs and or philosophies of life too - they just don't involve gods.

Although from your perspective I'm an atheist, from my perspective I'm a humanist, specifically a secular humanist.

Kindest regards,

James

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:15 pm
by thenexttodie
No! I think it was an interesting study which I could relate to and I never knew that such a study had been done. Thank you.[/quote]
Dragan Glas wrote:I was referring to your comment regarding your "large social network of criminals"(!)
No, it's true. That's why I believe the study you referred us to is accurate. It leads too the exact reason why I only carried a firearm for a brief time.


thenexttodie wrote:
thenexttodie wrote:In America, the church can also be a great network. You are far more likely to meet the owner of a multi-million dollar company at church than at the unemployment office.

Dragan Glas wrote:The point is that one is actively involved in a community rather than being a loner - aka, "failed joiner", which is what those with a "me against the world" attitude tend to be.

Kindest regards,

James


Dragan Glas wrote:Anyone can be a failed joiner - as the study shows regarding overly-religious conservative people with a judgmental attitude towards others.

Remember, calling someone an atheist is like a Jew calling non-Jews "gentiles", Christians calling non-Christians "heathen", and Muslims calling non-Muslims "infidels" (literally "without faith"!).

"Atheists" have beliefs and or philosophies of life too - they just don't involve gods.

Although from your perspective I'm an atheist, from my perspective I'm a humanist, specifically a secular humanist.

Kindest regards,

James


What standards must you follow in order to be a secular humanist?

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:58 pm
by Dragan Glas
Greetings,

A reasonable overview of secular humanism is given by the Wiki article

Kindest regards,

James

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:56 pm
by thenexttodie
Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

A reasonable overview of secular humanism is given by the Wiki article

Kindest regards,

James


Sorry, I am not talking to wiki. I am talking to you.

What standards must you follow in order to be a secular humanist?

Are you not able to answer this in your own words?

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:24 pm
by Dragan Glas
Greetings,

thenexttodie wrote:
Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

A reasonable overview of secular humanism is given by the Wiki article

Kindest regards,

James


Sorry, I am not talking to wiki. I am talking to you.

What standards must you follow in order to be a secular humanist?

Are you not able to answer this in your own words?

The philosophy or life stance of secular humanism (alternatively known by some adherents as Humanism, specifically with a capital H to distinguish it from other forms of humanism) embraces human reason, ethics, social justice, and philosophical naturalism while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience, and superstition as the bases of morality and decision making.[1][2][3][4]

Secular humanism posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or a god. It does not, however, assume that humans are either inherently evil or innately good, nor does it present humans as being superior to nature. Rather, the humanist life stance emphasizes the unique responsibility facing humanity and the ethical consequences of human decisions. Fundamental to the concept of secular humanism is the strongly held viewpoint that ideology—be it religious or political—must be thoroughly examined by each individual and not simply accepted or rejected on faith. Along with this, an essential part of secular humanism is a continually adapting search for truth, primarily through science and philosophy. Many Humanists derive their moral codes from a philosophy of utilitarianism, ethical naturalism, or evolutionary ethics, and some, such as Sam Harris, advocate a science of morality.

Kindest regards,

James

Re: America. Not the land of the free nor home of the brave.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:52 pm
by thenexttodie
Dragan Glas wrote:The philosophy or life stance of secular humanism (alternatively known by some adherents as Humanism, specifically with a capital H to distinguish it from other forms of humanism) embraces human reason, ethics, social justice, and philosophical naturalism while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience, and superstition as the bases of morality and decision making.[1][2][3][4]



Funny. Can you even give an example of secular humanistic effort?