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Dogma's DemisePosts: 576Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:23 am

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PAB wrote:Then, we would need to find out what 50% of romanians mean when they say they would like to return to communism. Do they mean that things were better with stalin, or do they prefer state ownership and restrictions on private ownership. Or have they simply Romanticised the past- the good old days sort of thing ??????


It's hard to say, but I would guess some of them only think about their big fat asses and don't give a thought too much about the long-term consequences or the human rights abuses (as long as it doesn't happen to them).

I guess one of the things they liked about communist rule was that their workplace was pretty much guaranteed (i.e. even if you or the business you were in were unproductive) and now you actually have to be competitive since many things are privatized.

Others might be disappointed with the current democratic system, we are unfortunately a very corrupt nation and many of our politicians were communists and collaborators back in the day. Should have just banned them all from politics for life and placed them on trial for crimes against humanity really. That's what they did with nazis and that's what we should have done with all of Ceausescu's men.


One thing's certain, when they do travel in the rest of Europe, then they suddenly love capitalism. (or stealing... depends on individual really) :lol:
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)O( Hytegia )O( wrote:1) Communism works in small-communities, or in instances where an economy itself is in a crippling nose-dive due to a large amount of wealth belonging to a small portion of ruling class.
...... like that time when the economy was in a nose dive about to spiral into a depression and so they abolished private property and brought about a classless society ??? what you may be referring to is Keynesian economic policies .

... And on the contrary, communism does not work in small communities, because it cannot , so long as it is in a small and isolated community, develop the means of production above that which capitalism could have due to it being linked to a global economic system. If it cannot develop above capitalist society than it is no better than primitive communism which is a regression. Marxist and communist hold that communism can only work on a global scale, once the majority -the working class - holds political power over the minority the capitalist class, until via the abolition of private property the capitalist are absorbed into the working class. thus formally eliminating class society.
"The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil...there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy." Albert Einstein
Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:59 am
)O( Hytegia )O(League LegendUser avatarPosts: 3135Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:27 pm Gender: Cake

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PAB wrote:
... And on the contrary, communism does not work in small communities, because it cannot , so long as it is in a small and isolated community, develop the means of production above that which capitalism could have due to it being linked to a global economic system. If it cannot develop above capitalist society than it is no better than primitive communism which is a regression. Marxist and communist hold that communism can only work on a global scale, once the majority -the working class - holds political power over the minority the capitalist class, until via the abolition of private property the capitalist are absorbed into the working class. thus formally eliminating class society.


No society has ever been a pure Marxist-textbook capitalism.
But, I'd like to say that the Amish peoples (though living in virtual abstinence of the rest of modern society) have managed to, in many communities, create a communism-like society.

They get together and build new houses, raise farms, feed each other, and live in relative peace with one-another.
Some would insinuate that being drunk at 9 in the morning to be signs of serious issues.
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Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:13 am
Dogma's DemisePosts: 576Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:23 am

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Well the Amish do what they do voluntarily yes? That's probably why you don't see conflict. They still however live under a capitalist government.
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Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:32 pm
)O( Hytegia )O(League LegendUser avatarPosts: 3135Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:27 pm Gender: Cake

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Dogma's Demise wrote:Well the Amish do what they do voluntarily yes? That's probably why you don't see conflict. They still however live under a capitalist government.


Yes. Because everyone has to be in total agreement with the government they are under, and at no time has a majority of a country been in favor of a communism.

Ever.
Some would insinuate that being drunk at 9 in the morning to be signs of serious issues.
Me? I'd insinuate it as signs of no plans and a refrigerator full of Whiskey and Guinness.
Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:32 pm
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