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Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:18 am
by Myrtonos
This thread is to gain recognition of vloggers who host videos directly on their own personal websites, not on YouTube, Vimeo, Vevo or any other video sharing platform, these being independent vloggers, hosting their content independently.
If you are an indpendent vlogger, and you don't want the teams of any video sharing platform to reuses your copyrighted material, then you are doing the right thing. If you have your own website, you may get a mention here if you host more than half of your videos (previews aside) only on your website.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:12 am
by Myrtonos
The Glass Association of North America website has three privately hosted videos, if that counts as vlogging.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:55 am
by WarK
Myrtonos wrote:The Glass Association of North America website has three privately hosted videos, if that counts as vlogging.


One of the problems of using self hosting is that the site isn't up to date and is using a plugin as a video player. Both YouTube and Vimeo have html5 video players. You can post vids on YT and embed them on your site too.

Imho using self hosting severely limits one's audience.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:16 pm
by Myrtonos
You are still missing the point of the thread, it's a way for those who use self hosting to gain recognition of their websites. Maybe that don't want the videos they have to be embedded on sites other than where they are hosted.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:29 pm
by Prolescum
He didn't miss the point, he was simply pointing out a pro and/or con. No need for the snark.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:09 pm
by Myrtonos
One thing he said is that using self hosting limits the audience, and it seems that threads like this would expand the audience of such a vlogger. There are pros of self-hosting:

*Videos are hosted under your own terms of use, and you can reserve as many rights as copyright law allows.
*Full control of your videos.
*Maintains uniqueness of the website, site must be visited for videos to be seen (online) and embedding them elsewhere isn't possible.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:43 pm
by Prolescum
Myrtonos wrote:One thing he said is that using self hosting limits the audience


He's correct. Potential viewers are more likely to frequent sites like YouTube and its ilk.

and it seems that threads like this would expand the audience of such a vlogger.


Assuming that vloggers actually used this thread, that this site has some reach, and that readers here were willing to make the effort to visit regularly.

If they self host, they can researve as many rights to their videos as corpyright law allows, which is not the case on YouTube.


I understand the difference. There's a balance to be had between the desire to retain one's copyright and the likelihood of a wide audience. Last time I read the standard YouTube licence (some years ago, admittedly), they request the right (from uploaders) to use the work (for promotion etc) only during its tenure on the site. Seems pretty fair to me.

Copyright itself, unless contracted otherwise, always stays with its author or their estates, so I don't think this is really a good reason to self-host in and of itself. I'm sure there are other reasons, but I can't think of any, which suggests that they're also not very strong, or that I have no imagination.


Anyway, this isn't a thread for conversation, it's for potential vloggers to promote their wares! I'd better check the new members panel to let them all through.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:06 am
by Myrtonos
Prolescum wrote:He's correct. Potential viewers are more likely to frequent sites like YouTube and its ilk.


If there were fewer videos on YouTube and its ilk, then potential viewers would be less likely to visit them. Independently hosted videos can still appear in google video search.

Prolescum wrote:Assuming that vloggers actually used this thread, that this site has some reach, and that readers here were willing to make the effort to visit regularly.


And they might if they want to promote it among posters on this site.

Prolescum wrote:I understand the difference. There's a balance to be had between the desire to retain one's copyright and the likelihood of a wide audience. Last time I read the standard YouTube licence (some years ago, admittedly), they request the right (from uploaders) to use the work (for promotion etc) only during its tenure on the site. Seems pretty fair to me.


It really shouldn't be like that. The way it should be is this, if you don't want the team of a particular video sharing platform to reuse your videos like that don't submit them there.

Prolescum wrote:Copyright itself, unless contracted otherwise, always stays with its author or their estates, so I don't think this is really a good reason to self-host in and of itself. I'm sure there are other reasons, but I can't think of any, which suggests that they're also not very strong, or that I have no imagination.


But when you submit a video to a site that is not your own, then you may be giving up rights depending on their terms of use. If you want to get a thought on whether it is a good reason to self-host, ask a conservative, they are the ones most concerned with property rights.

Prolescum wrote:Anyway, this isn't a thread for conversation, it's for potential vloggers to promote their wares! I'd better check the new members panel to let them all through.


I know, but someone else started one and I had something to say.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:38 am
by Myrtonos
No particularly hard feelings here but I wonder if anyone here knows of any independent vloggers, and would like to promote them here.

Can anyone here comprehend this, especially the first part:

If there were fewer videos on YouTube and its ilk, then potential viewers would be less likely to visit them. Independently hosted videos can still appear in google video search.

Re: Independent vloggers' MegaThread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:13 am
by Myrtonos
I should mention a site called TEDTalks, which does host the videos it creates.