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How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

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How to Fake Search Engine Censorship
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borrofburiModeratorPosts: 3508Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:27 pm Gender: Male

Post How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/does-go ... rnet-hoax/

I'm using a search query that looks like one thing but is, in fact, another. This particular search query uses unicode characters that look identical or similar to normal characters. In this case, I've replace one of the "a"s in Tiananmen with look-a-like character from the Cyrillic alphabet. Nobody uses such a tampered string when writing about Tiananmen Square so Google naturally doesn't find any results. Hence, it looks like they are censoring. As long as you don't delete the entire query and start again, modifying the query in place will continue returning results that appear "censored".
Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:59 pm
lrkunUser avatarPosts: 3831Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:37 pmLocation: R. Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

Did you try it borrofburi?
Unsupport unthink.
Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:43 am
borrofburiModeratorPosts: 3508Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:27 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

lrkun wrote:Did you try it borrofburi?

Yes... Well I followed his links and saw that they work. I mean, in the mean time people have been using the same cryllic homoglyph attack so it returns more than nothing (well, bing only returns the page that I link to), but it does work, at least until there's a whole slew of pages made declaring google to be an evil censor.
Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:24 pm
sgrunterundtUser avatarPosts: 254Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:23 amLocation: Niels Bohr Institute, Copenhagen Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

I just anounced on facebook that I have deleted myself from google, then gave a like to a search on my name in tampered form.
Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:26 pm
ThePuppyTurtleUser avatarPosts: 173Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:26 am Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

Yeah, Fake Censorship designed to Insight anger in ones own Fans/viewers is wrong. This includes Almost Every topic in this Sub-forum
Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:50 am
australopithecusAdministratorUser avatarPosts: 4277Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 pmLocation: Kernow Gender: Time Lord

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

Stop bumping dead threads to promote your pointless non-arguments.
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:30 am
sgrunterundtUser avatarPosts: 254Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:23 amLocation: Niels Bohr Institute, Copenhagen Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

ThePuppyTurtle wrote:Yeah, Fake Censorship designed to Insight anger in ones own Fans/viewers is wrong. This includes Almost Every topic in this Sub-forum


What does "Insight anger" mean anyway?
Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:35 am
ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 4998Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

ThePuppyTurtle wrote:Yeah, Fake Censorship designed to Insight anger in ones own Fans/viewers is wrong. This includes Almost Every topic in this Sub-forum


Seriously dude, do you have shift-key tourettes?

One supposes you're too young to remember how some righteous and honest Christians of Youtube went about an attempt to silence their critics... It's well documented, and is in fact partly responsible for this site's existence. It is appropriate to have a sub-forum with this explicit purpose. Your childish mockery aside (I'm sure there's a better outlet for it), you're American so should understand very well that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
if constructive debate is allowed to progress, better ideas will ultimately supplant worse ideas.

Comment is free, but facts are sacred
Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:50 am
australopithecusAdministratorUser avatarPosts: 4277Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 pmLocation: Kernow Gender: Time Lord

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

One supposes he knows all about the tactics of VFX, Neph, et al because he uses a similar system himself. Posting approval to weed out "trolls and idiots" is very much just a smokescreen. I'd bet money he's not above being selective with what he allows through sometimes.
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:26 pm
ThePuppyTurtleUser avatarPosts: 173Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:26 am Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

You can't Comment on a youtube video. What a horrific travesty, How dare us evil creationists demand you be Civil in our comment Section, that you Contribute to conversation.

Edit: Funny how one of the mods felt the need to Edit my post and CENSOR ME. Go ahead mods, ban me, I dare you, Force me to make a new account and Show the members of this forum how interested in Conversation and Evidence you Really are.
Last edited by ThePuppyTurtle on Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:20 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:57 pm
MineMineMineUser avatarPosts: 130Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:39 pm Gender: Pinecone

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

ThePuppyTurtle wrote:
Grow Up, [childish insults]


ThePuppyTurtle wrote:You can't Comment on a youtube video. What a horrific travesty, How dare us evil creationists demand you be Civil in our comment Section, that you Contribute to conversation.


well you can't just silence all your critics and then say your ideas are uncontested. Which is a horrific hypocrisy.
It's not about creationists demanding/enforcing civility. It's about them being outright dishonest .

edit: oh why gnug why :o
"I feel almost as powerful as an exposed nipple."
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:10 pm
Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2542Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

ThePuppyTurtle wrote:You can't Comment on a youtube video. What a horrific travesty, How dare us evil creationists demand you be Civil in our comment Section, that you Contribute to conversation.


I see you figured out for yourself that your comment was a bad one.

Consider this a warning.

Oh, and getting censored isn't nice, is it? :)
- Gnug215

YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Gnug215


The horse is a ferocious predator.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:20 pm
Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2542Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

ThePuppyTurtle wrote:You can't Comment on a youtube video. What a horrific travesty, How dare us evil creationists demand you be Civil in our comment Section, that you Contribute to conversation.

Edit: Funny how one of the mods felt the need to Edit my post and CENSOR ME. Go ahead mods, ban me, I dare you, Force me to make a new account and Show the members of this forum how interested in Conversation and Evidence you Really are.


Funny how you missed the irony there.

But no, we don't really censor people here for opinions. We warn and ban them for breaking the rules. You have read those, right?

Also, no, we're not 7, so we don't listen to dares.

Now, if we could move on with the conversation in a mature and factual manner, please.
- Gnug215

YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Gnug215


The horse is a ferocious predator.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:31 pm
Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2542Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

MineMineMine wrote:edit: oh why gnug why :o


Heh, I was gonna put it back, but actually lost it in a copy/pasta incident.
Then when I tried to retreieve it elsewhere, my conn crapped out for a bit, and before I made it he rewrote his post.

We have the post on file though, so his warning still counts.
- Gnug215

YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Gnug215


The horse is a ferocious predator.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:34 pm
ThePuppyTurtleUser avatarPosts: 173Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:26 am Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

MineMineMine wrote:
ThePuppyTurtle wrote:
Grow Up, [childish insults]


ThePuppyTurtle wrote:You can't Comment on a youtube video. What a horrific travesty, How dare us evil creationists demand you be Civil in our comment Section, that you Contribute to conversation.


well you can't just silence all your critics and then say your ideas are uncontested. Which is a horrific hypocrisy.
It's not about creationists demanding/enforcing civility. It's about them being outright dishonest .

edit: oh why gnug why :o


Oh, Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_TcxpuP ... ideo_title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glLOhNDv ... ideo_title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBimTKs5 ... ure=relmfu
Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:43 pm
WarKChat ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 1176Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:59 am Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

ThePuppyTurtle wrote:
Oh, Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_TcxpuP ... ideo_title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glLOhNDv ... ideo_title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBimTKs5 ... ure=relmfu


What is the norm for "creationist" channels on yt? Do they usually allow comments? And how do they compare to "evolutionists"?
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:55 pm
WarKChat ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 1176Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:59 am Gender: Tree

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

hell, let's go one step farther, ThePuppyTurtle here's your homework, find 10 most popular channels from each group and compare how many of them allow comments :)

cheers
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:59 pm
australopithecusAdministratorUser avatarPosts: 4277Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 pmLocation: Kernow Gender: Time Lord

Post Re: How to Fake Search Engine Censorship

ThePuppyTurtle wrote:Go ahead mods, ban me, I dare you, Force me to make a new account and Show the members of this forum how interested in Conversation and Evidence you Really are.


FAO; Mr ThePuppyTurtle

I'm going to say this once, on behalf of the Moderation team, and you can either take it on board and let it sink in or you can ignore it and continue to act like a jackass. Choice is yours.

We are not going to ban you for acting like a immature toddler and we are not going to rise to your childishness. If you do not want to post here, then don't. We are not going to make you a martyr to the creationist cause because you thought acting like a dumb kid on the internet was funny. So long as you don't do something wildly stupid like post porn or equally dumb nonsense then you will be allowed to post here all you like. Fill your boots, dude, we don't really care too much. You follow the rules and we'll just sit here and watch you make a fool of yourself because that's exactly what you're doing.

Currently there is no rule against acting like an arse, believe me I wish there were, but sadly there isn't. Frankly it's to your benefit, so before you start crying over an accidental edit (it happens, the edit button is very close to the quote button. Deal with it.) remember you are actually being allowed to post here despite clearly obvious (and lame) attempts at trolling, bumping long dead threads for no reason and flame baiting.

To conclude;

You are not going to be banned. We aren't going to ban you. There is little chance of ban in your immediate future.

Have a great day.

Regards,

Your friendly neighbourhood Australopithecus.


P.S

Here's your original post, though I fail to see why you had such a fit over a really bad insult, and as it was a reply to me let me be very clear:

I don't care about your channel or commenting on your videos. I have better things to do that give you attention on Youtube. You post here, it's my job to make sure you behave, but that's the start and finish of the impact you have on my time. So don't flatter yourself, Sir.

ThePuppyTurtle wrote: :o You can't Comment on a youtube video. What a horrific travesty, How dare us evil creationists demand you be Civil in our comment Section, that you Contribute to conversation.

Grow Up, It's Freaking youtube, is baby sad I don't let him curse at Me? Do you want me to change your diaper too.
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:44 pm
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