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LaurensSocial EditorUser avatarPosts: 2948Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:24 pmLocation: Norwich UK Gender: Male

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I thought I would post this here as I want to discuss this away from a religious context. I used to be a Buddhist and I used to spend a lot of my time meditating. When I abandoned Buddhism I also gave up meditation, that is until recently when I decided to try it again because I've been getting stressed out at work and stuff.

The first thing that strikes me is how much more beneficial it can be when not done with a religious aim. As a Buddhist I wouldn't achieve any states of relaxation or bliss, because subconsciously I wanted more out of it, I wanted profound metaphysical revelations etc. These days I just view it as a way to unwind and or get to know what state of mind I am currently in. It works a lot better outside of a religious context.

The practice is simple just observe your breath and any time you notice that you are distracted go back to the breath. This will often induce a state of relaxation and peace of mind, sometimes it can be frustrating because your thoughts don't seem to stop, but I find that even if you don't feel relaxed you can gain insight into what is bugging you. Oftentimes we feel anxious or stressed but we can't pinpoint why, meditation can help us become aware of the causes and triggers.

I would definitely recommend it to everyone. Just ignore all the mumbo jumbo that surrounds it. Even the stuff Sam Harris says. Just do it as though nothing is going to happen and there is nothing to gain, that way you get the most out of it.
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Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:31 am
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2926Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

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Greetings,

Essentially, you're talking about "mindfulness" - ie, meditation without religious beliefs.

As I noted elsewhere, a recent study showed that three sessions of twenty-five minutes is enough to show that it works.

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Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:35 am
LaurensSocial EditorUser avatarPosts: 2948Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:24 pmLocation: Norwich UK Gender: Male

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Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

Essentially, you're talking about "mindfulness" - ie, meditation without religious beliefs.

As I noted elsewhere, a recent study showed that three sessions of twenty-five minutes is enough to show that it works.

Kindest regards,

James


Hello,

Yes that is what I am referring to. It's called vipassana in its Buddhist context.

I will have read of the article when I am on a device that is more conducive to reading.

Is meditation something that you have tried?
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Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:06 pm
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2926Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

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Greetings,

Laurens wrote:
Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

Essentially, you're talking about "mindfulness" - ie, meditation without religious beliefs.

As I noted elsewhere, a recent study showed that three sessions of twenty-five minutes is enough to show that it works.

Kindest regards,

James


Hello,

Yes that is what I am referring to. It's called vipassana in its Buddhist context.

I will have read of the article when I am on a device that is more conducive to reading.

Is meditation something that you have tried?

No, although I'm looking into mindfulness, given the recent research showing its benefits.

Kindest regards,

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I also wonder if it is the actual mindfulness that is beneficial or just the fact that you are able to step away thirty minutes a day that helps. I try to read every morning, and I feel that the days I actually do read, I am less stressed out. Does anyone know if they have actually researched mindfulness against things like reading, relaxing, napping, or playing videogames/watching TV?
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LaurensSocial EditorUser avatarPosts: 2948Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:24 pmLocation: Norwich UK Gender: Male

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he_who_is_nobody wrote:I also wonder if it is the actual mindfulness that is beneficial or just the fact that you are able to step away thirty minutes a day that helps. I try to read every morning, and I feel that the days I actually do read, I am less stressed out. Does anyone know if they have actually researched mindfulness against things like reading, relaxing, napping, or playing videogames/watching TV?


In my experience I am more aware of my inner monologue if I meditate frequently. For instance I get stressed out over tiny things when I'm cycling to work. If I'm waiting for a car to drive past and it is going slower than I'd like, if I'm not mindful I end up getting really annoyed for no real reason. After practising meditation daily I am more able to realize that thought and counteract it by thinking how stupid it is to become so enraged by such a small thing. Otherwise I might just let the little things build up and before I know it I'm having a shitty day.

So as well as being something to unwind with, it is something that helps you not to get wound up.

To answer your actual question, I don't know. For what it's worth, as someone who does most of the things you mention and meditates, I'd say it provides something deeper than those other forms of unwinding.
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Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:54 pm
atheistcatmanUser avatarPosts: 58Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:13 pm

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Currently reading a Sam Harris book that has this subject matter.
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I don't exactly meditate, but I do spend time in quiet contemplation of the universe, which has a great calming effect on me.
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