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Removal of polls

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Removal of polls
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TheFlyingBastardUser avatarPosts: 787Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:17 am Gender: Male

Post Removal of polls

In many of the communities I have been part of, polls were exclusively used by tools for who-knows-what-reason. (To look interesting?) With realisoph I can see this happening again.

Just throwing it out there, 's all.
Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:36 pm
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borrofburiModeratorPosts: 3527Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:27 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Removal of polls

Meh, they're rarely used for anything of great interest, but I think that makes sense, since they're internet polls and all. Besides, how else could we have proved that pie is superior to cake?
Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:45 pm
PredanatorUser avatarPosts: 54Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:57 am

Post Re: Removal of polls

There are already 4 Poll Topics claiming the same nonsense... three in Science and one in Philosophy.
This is spam. The Forum Rules should be more clear about multiple threads on the same or nearly the same topic.
Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:47 pm
borrofburiModeratorPosts: 3527Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:27 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Removal of polls

Predanator wrote:There are already 4 Poll Topics claiming the same nonsense... three in Science and one in Philosophy.
This is spam. The Forum Rules should be more clear about multiple threads on the same or nearly the same topic.

Does that not have more to do with realisoph being a problem than the pols themselves?

Moreover, the two I have read (I have only seen 3, and wasn't aware of the third until a few moments ago), were, I think, sufficiently different (one was on why he thinks big bang is wrong, the other was his proposed guess that might explain the observed phenomena we explain with the big bang).
Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:51 pm
TheFlyingBastardUser avatarPosts: 787Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:17 am Gender: Male

Post Re: Removal of polls

The point is not the subject of the polls - it's that the polls are positively useless, with the possible exception of making it look more interesting to slow people. They attract spam and people suffering from Tarditatis Sydrome, allows for false dichotomies and stupid questions (such as "how likely do you think it is the big bang happened in percentages?" to take a question from these forums).
Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:10 pm
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PredanatorUser avatarPosts: 54Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:57 am

Post Re: Removal of polls

I don't agree they are substantively different. "what might explain the observed phenomena we explain with the big bang" would be reasoning for "why the big bang is wrong".
Every aspect of a single argument does not deserve its own thread. These new threads are more an attempt to control the conversation, repeating claims that have been refuted in previous topics, without addressing or considering the refutation.

Realisoph is a problem in that he is really claiming infallibility of belief via what he calls "premises"... which have no place in a forum for reason. However, instead of having one topic that can naturally die, there are more and more topics appearing which essentially bump his claims.

Repeatedly bumping threads, or perpetuating an argument by creating new threads, artificially shifts and controls the active content of the forum. This is inappropriate and spam.
Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:22 pm
TheFlyingBastardUser avatarPosts: 787Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:17 am Gender: Male

Post Re: Removal of polls

So, ahhh...

How about removing the option for polls?
Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:53 pm
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PulsarUser avatarPosts: 872Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:52 pmLocation: Belgium

Post Re: Removal of polls

TheFlyingBastard wrote:So, ahhh...

How about removing the option for polls?

You should make a poll about it :D
I don't mind polls on general topics, they can be fun. But they have no use in the science section.
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:05 pm
CosmicSporkLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 929Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:36 pmLocation: UK Gender: Cake

Post Re: Removal of polls

I think there's a fair point regarding polls in the Reason forums. I've disabled poll creation for those forums for normal users. If somebody does have a legitimate reason to create poll in these areas, a Moderator or Admin can edit the thread to add the poll if absolutely necessary.
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:19 am
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TheFlyingBastardUser avatarPosts: 787Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:17 am Gender: Male

Post Re: Removal of polls

Thanks, Spork. This'll surely keep the forums cleaner.
Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:53 pm
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AndromedasWakeLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 598Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:38 pmLocation: Captain's Chair, League HQ Gender: Cake

Post Re: Removal of polls

Since this suggestion has been implemented, this thread is being locked. If you want polls brought back, please make your case in a separate thread. ;)
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