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Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2956Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Greetings,

Niocan, please understand - I'm not against you, I'm just concerned at what you're doing.

The point I was trying to make was this...

I *mirrored* you.

I was as accurate in my portrayal of what you said, as you were in your portrayal of what the CoE said.

I'm willing to admit my misrepresentation of your quote - will you acknowledge the same for the CoE quote, as Singer has pointed out?

In a way, yes it could; Although making CS costs me only the price of distilled water and some batteries every few months or so. I educate others to make their own if they wish, and there's no profit motive being used.

It also cost you the price of parts, etc, to make equipment you use to produce colloidal silver.

Also, if others believe what you're telling them, they may end up harming themselves - either by not seeking proper medical advice for any health problem in time and/or through misapplying what you've told them.

Let me ask you, if I didn't choose the above way to spread what I know and instead choose to scare people into accepting my product... Would you think that's wrong? I would.

I would think it's wrong.

But that's what you're doing with your copying/pasting a "quote-mined" misrepresentation of the CoE's position - you're choosing "to scare people" into refusing a vaccine. Do you see?

Your stated reason for doing so is similar to the Lament of Job - all the bad things that were supposed to happen didn't, ... Why?

Because the people paid heed and took precautions - thus averting what could have happened!

Kindest regards,

James
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:22 am
NiocanBannedUser avatarPosts: 769Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:57 amLocation: Winnipeg, Manitoba Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,
Niocan, please understand - I'm not against you, I'm just concerned at what you're doing.
The point I was trying to make was this...
I *mirrored* you.
I was as accurate in my portrayal of what you said, as you were in your portrayal of what the CoE said.
I'm willing to admit my misrepresentation of your quote - will you acknowledge the same for the CoE quote, as Singer has pointed out?
Well, the article stems from more then just that source alone and we'll have to see this month if if is correct.
Or, if you google Wolfgang Wodarg (The first person mentioned, and leader of this notion) you can look into it further to see it hold water ;)

Dragan Glas wrote:It also cost you the price of parts, etc, to make equipment you use to produce colloidal silver.
Also, if others believe what you're telling them, they may end up harming themselves - either by not seeking proper medical advice for any health problem in time and/or through misapplying what you've told them.
3 alligator clips, one resistor or equivalent method to restrict the amperage between .5mA and 1mA, three to four 9v batteries, and two pure silver coins / wires don't cost much at all ;)
In regards to the medical help: I know when to suggest trying the alternative, focusing on those with 'low priority' as suggested by the hospitals in terms of threatening / need of service standards.

Dragan Glas wrote:I would think it's wrong.
But that's what you're doing with your copying/pasting a "quote-mined" misrepresentation of the CoE's position - you're choosing "to scare people" into refusing a vaccine. Do you see?
I'm letting people know that others in higher positions then just a pagan on the Internet share similar beliefs ;P It's not to scare people, and I don't (or at least try not to) mention anything directly threatening. It's to inform and have fun, as per the reasons behind any forum.

Dragan Glas wrote:Your stated reason for doing so is similar to the Lament of Job - all the bad things that were supposed to happen didn't, ... Why?
Because the people paid heed and took precautions - thus averting what could have happened!
Kindest regards,
James
I'm not so sure there's any consolidated report on the adverse effects of the vaccine yet, nor is there enough time to put together any studies on the health between controls and those vaccinated. I don't trust anything that's rushed, with no direct testing, and pushed onto people out of shear fear by lowering the pandemic requirements... Just to sell a product. It's maddening.
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:19 am
scalyblueUser avatarPosts: 1417Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:02 am

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Don't mind him, he fails at medicine forever. He also fails at physics; he seems to think that electrolysis is taking place using distilled water as an electrolyte, and he has no verification that he is actually making colloidal silver. I'd actually think if he sent what he makes to a lab to get reviewed, and it came back and turned out that he isn't making anything, he'd think it was a conspiracy against him.
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:28 am
NiocanBannedUser avatarPosts: 769Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:57 amLocation: Winnipeg, Manitoba Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

The tyndall effect can only be seen when silver is in the water *and* current is passed through, and in no other situation is it present (To achieve the same amounts being made from just distilled water without a starter amount from the previous batch, it will take ~three times longer [6-8h]). But hey, personal experience with my own hands means nothing right? I have the test tube in my hands and you've never bothered to look at it..
Know, O man, that Light is thine heritage. Know that darkness is only a veil. Sealed in thine heart is brightness eternal, waiting the moment of freedom to conquer, waiting to rend the veil of the night. --Thoth
Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:37 am
RichardMNixonUser avatarPosts: 1047Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:45 pmLocation: USA Gender: Pinecone

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

scalyblue wrote:Don't mind him, he fails at medicine forever. He also fails at physics; he seems to think that electrolysis is taking place using distilled water as an electrolyte, and he has no verification that he is actually making colloidal silver. I'd actually think if he sent what he makes to a lab to get reviewed, and it came back and turned out that he isn't making anything, he'd think it was a conspiracy against him.


How long will it take for him to turn blue? That will let us know.



Yes, there can be adverse effects from the vaccine. No, you personally are not likely to die of H1N1. However, an unvaccinated person is more likely to become seriously ill of H1N1 than a vaccinated person is to become ill from the vaccine. Count me in.
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:46 am
NiocanBannedUser avatarPosts: 769Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:57 amLocation: Winnipeg, Manitoba Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

RichardMNixon wrote:How long will it take for him to turn blue? That will let us know.
Don't hold your breath ;)

RichardMNixon wrote:Yes, there can be adverse effects from the vaccine. No, you personally are not likely to die of H1N1. However, an unvaccinated person is more likely to become seriously ill of H1N1 than a vaccinated person is to become ill from the vaccine. Count me in.
But that's the very fear that's being advertised to support the vaccine, and there are other ways like increasing your D3 levels to fight off and weaken this already fairly weak virus.
Know, O man, that Light is thine heritage. Know that darkness is only a veil. Sealed in thine heart is brightness eternal, waiting the moment of freedom to conquer, waiting to rend the veil of the night. --Thoth
Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:52 am
CantoPosts: 98Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:08 pm

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Chances are YOU will not die from H1N1. But what about those around you when you are infected? Do you never come into contact with the elderly, the young, those with improperly functioning immune systems? Vaccination is not about the individual but the group.
Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:17 pm
NiocanBannedUser avatarPosts: 769Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:57 amLocation: Winnipeg, Manitoba Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Canto wrote:Chances are YOU will not die from H1N1. But what about those around you when you are infected? Do you never come into contact with the elderly, the young, those with improperly functioning immune systems? Vaccination is not about the individual but the group.
I'm sorry but I'm not part of any heard. Thanks for pointing out the other half of the fear mongering though: Think of the elderly and the kids! ;)
Know, O man, that Light is thine heritage. Know that darkness is only a veil. Sealed in thine heart is brightness eternal, waiting the moment of freedom to conquer, waiting to rend the veil of the night. --Thoth
Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:37 pm
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2956Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Greetings,

Niocan, are you saying that you have no contact with other people?

The fact is:

1) Either they will infect you or
2) You will infect them.

Depending on who's protected and who isn't, determines who becomes infected and who doesn't.

You may not consider yourself to be a member of a "heard" - you mean "herd" - species, but the fact is that the human species is a social one; we are group-oriented.

Kindest regards,

James
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:06 pm
NiocanBannedUser avatarPosts: 769Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:57 amLocation: Winnipeg, Manitoba Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Just to bring things back into perspective here: The normal flu kills more people then this H1N1 has. So why are so many people scared of this one in particular? Because the media told them to be ;)

Think about it.
Know, O man, that Light is thine heritage. Know that darkness is only a veil. Sealed in thine heart is brightness eternal, waiting the moment of freedom to conquer, waiting to rend the veil of the night. --Thoth
Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:15 pm
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2956Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

Greetings,

Niocan wrote:Just to bring things back into perspective here: The normal flu kills more people then this H1N1 has. So why are so many people scared of this one in particular? Because the media told them to be ;)

Think about it.

Which "normal flu" is that?

Kindest regards,

James
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:53 pm
CantoPosts: 98Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:08 pm

Post Re: Thank you for taking the vaccine

You mean the normal Flu that every Walgreens (at least in my area) gives out free/cheap shots for every single flu season? You mean the flu that my elderly mother gets a shot for every single year because actually becoming infected with the flu has a high probability of death? My brother works with the elderly, as part of his job he is required to get a flu shot each year. This year he was required to get the H1N1 shot. These are responsible acts of prevention to protect those who are most at risk. Your "I'm not part of the herd" mentality is selfish and marks you as an asshole. You are a member of society wether you like it or not, part of me wishes that the herd would just cast people like you out.

And while we're on the whole fear mongering topic, please tell me again WHY I should be taking so called medications that have been shown to NOT be effective instead of actual medicine that HAS been shown to work? Big Pharma? Vaccines give your kid autism? These are somehow NOT about fear? Fear is as strong a motivator for homeo/naturopaths as it is for doctors.
Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:19 am
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