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irmerkUser avatarPosts: 351Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:42 amLocation: California, USA Gender: Male

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Have you seen it?
-----Thoughts?

A few of my friends, previously respected, saw it. In their newly stoner state, they decided it was a mind blast and suggested me to watch. I did. Do I regret it? Kind of. I regret being subjected to such .... stuff. Yet, I am glad to further know what some people actually believe.


In my opinion, it vaguely ties together illegitimate ideas with no facts or proof and then proceeds to tell the audience that all the facts and proof presented can be cross checked. Kind of funny, though.
Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:14 am
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ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5002Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

Post Re: The Obama Deception

Alex Jones needs to be provocative to keep his audience of stoners, conspiracy nuts and paleo-conservatives. It wouldn't matter who the president is because all politicians are equally corrupt. He should stand as a representative if he cares that much. It's easier to sit around and bitch about it, though.
If it's an issue for you or your mates, use your vote wisely and whenever it's required.
if constructive debate is allowed to progress, better ideas will ultimately supplant worse ideas.

Comment is free, but facts are sacred
Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:56 pm
MiranoxUser avatarPosts: 46Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:25 amLocation: Montreal, Canada Gender: Male

Post Re: The Obama Deception

Not all politicians are equally corrupt. Though it's safe to say no ethical person will win a US presidential election anytime soon, some of them are less selfish and care, at least a bit, about morality. Encouraging someone to vote is pointless because a handful of votes will not affect the final outcome. If you really want to have a say in who gets elected, you need a lot of money. ;)
Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:42 pm
irmerkUser avatarPosts: 351Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:42 amLocation: California, USA Gender: Male

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Prolescum wrote:If it's an issue for you or your mates, use your vote wisely and whenever it's required.


Haha, no, no, no. I constantly degrade and humiliate them for liking the movie.

Miranox wrote:Not all politicians are equally corrupt. Though it's safe to say no ethical person will win a US presidential election anytime soon...


Yeah, that is just about true. Still, the movie doesn't actually provide legitimate content.
Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:46 pm
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e2iPiUser avatarPosts: 648Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:40 amLocation: Deltax Deltap>~h/(4 pi) Gender: Cake

Post Re: The Obama Deception

Miranox wrote:Encouraging someone to vote is pointless because a handful of votes will not affect the final outcome.

Could I direct your attention to the 2000 presidential election, specifically Florida.
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
-George Bernard Shaw
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Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:03 pm
irmerkUser avatarPosts: 351Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:42 amLocation: California, USA Gender: Male

Post Re: The Obama Deception

e2iPi wrote:
Miranox wrote:Encouraging someone to vote is pointless because a handful of votes will not affect the final outcome.

Could I direct your attention to the 200(0) presidential election, specifically Florida.


That was unlawful, and to go there to try to make a point about votes counting is stupid.
Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:05 pm
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ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5002Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

Post Re: The Obama Deception

I wasn't very clear there, I meant they think all politicians are corrupt so whomever wins the top job is also corrupted.
if constructive debate is allowed to progress, better ideas will ultimately supplant worse ideas.

Comment is free, but facts are sacred
Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:20 pm
e2iPiUser avatarPosts: 648Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:40 amLocation: Deltax Deltap>~h/(4 pi) Gender: Cake

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irmerk wrote:That was unlawful, and to go there to try to make a point about votes counting is stupid.

Whatever your view of the legality of the recount in Florida, the fact remains that the margin of victory was, officially, 537 votes.
Of course if that is not good enough for you:

2000: New Mexico Presidential election - 366 votes (even closer than Florida)
2002: Colorado 7th Congressional District - 121 votes
2004: Washington Gubernatorial election- 133 votes
Montana House of Representatives, District 12 - 2 votes
2006: Oklahoma House of Representatives, District 25 - 2 votes
2008: Alaska House of Representatives, District 7 - 1 vote
Minnesota US Senate - 312 votes

Many more examples exist, but I restricted myself to just the past 10 years.

Votes count, any more stupid comments?

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
-George Bernard Shaw
Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:57 am
irmerkUser avatarPosts: 351Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:42 amLocation: California, USA Gender: Male

Post Re: The Obama Deception

e2iPi wrote:Votes count, any more stupid comments?

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Try again.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:15 am
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ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5002Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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Miranox wrote:Not all politicians are equally corrupt. Though it's safe to say no ethical person will win a US presidential election anytime soon, some of them are less selfish and care, at least a bit, about morality. Encouraging someone to vote is pointless because a handful of votes will not affect the final outcome. If you really want to have a say in who gets elected, you need a lot of money. ;)


Yeah don't encourage anyone to vote, it's just part of a nefarious plan to make you feel like you have a modicum of control.

Now that is daft.
if constructive debate is allowed to progress, better ideas will ultimately supplant worse ideas.

Comment is free, but facts are sacred
Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:30 pm
e2iPiUser avatarPosts: 648Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:40 amLocation: Deltax Deltap>~h/(4 pi) Gender: Cake

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irmerk wrote:Try again.

No need. I presented the evidence necessary to debunk your claim.

Your juvenile response indicates that you have already formed an opinion on the issue and no amount of evidence will change that fact. I see no reason to waste my time in an attempt to educate a closed mind.

Good day, sir.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
-George Bernard Shaw
Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:29 pm
irmerkUser avatarPosts: 351Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:42 amLocation: California, USA Gender: Male

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e2iPi wrote:Good day, sir.

Yeah, try to keep your trolling to another forum.
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Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:57 pm
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Nashy19Posts: 250Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 5:37 pm

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irmerk wrote:In my opinion, it vaguely ties together illegitimate ideas with no facts or proof and then proceeds to tell the audience that all the facts and proof presented can be cross checked. Kind of funny, though.


No need to actually cross check, the fact that they've told you to do it must means that it can be done, thus it's prove, and your too lazy anyway.
Actually I think the more Alex Jones goes on about checking the facts the less likely his viewers are to do it.

I used to watch it alot, but at the time how government and business worked was a big unknown to me.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:31 pm
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