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he_who_is_nobodyBloggerUser avatarPosts: 3148Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:36 amLocation: Albuquerque, New Mexico Gender: Male

Post The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

I was poking around the Ethernet yesterday, and stumbled across something I think some on this forum will find very interesting. This appears to be the YouTube channel of our now resident creationist. Apparently, he is not only a creationist, but also a geocentrist. No wonder everyone here is having a hard time trying to teach him a concept first proposed and accepted in the 1800s, he is having trouble with a fact that has been known about since the 1600s.

The video below appears to be created by lifepsyop and I think it is a great insight into how his mind works and why actual evidence will not dent his faith.

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Dave B.Posts: 119Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:13 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

This is one of the more extreme cases of denialism I have ever witnessed.

You should watch his video entitled "Copernicalism is False Science". I imagined it as lifepsyop and gilbo having a conversation. It's quite entertaining.
Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:06 am
he_who_is_nobodyBloggerUser avatarPosts: 3148Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:36 amLocation: Albuquerque, New Mexico Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Dave B. wrote:This is one of the more extreme cases of denialism I have ever witnessed.

You should watch his video entitled "Copernicalism is False Science". I imagined it as lifepsyop and gilbo having a conversation. It's quite entertaining.


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DaealisUser avatarPosts: 235Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:48 pmLocation: Tampere

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

As someone who doesn't know a damn thing about geocentrism, how the hell do you explain this as a planetary trajectory, when it's rotating around earth?
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From what I think I understand about gravity, the objects revolve around the centre of the mass. So wouldn't this kind of trajectory either have to claim that the centre of each planets mass is outside of the planet, or invoke some divine intervention right out of the gate? What is the reasoning behind the epicycles in geocentrism?

It's also funny when he tries to shuffle a conspiracy theory in there, with the "NASA still uses geocentrism is launch calculations!"-line(maybe that was some other video, got lost in YT Geocentrism-land for a while). It couldn't be because the rockets are launched from earth, and so the calculations have to be calculated as if earth was the centre of launch, could it?

I'm baffled as to how long do you have to dig around in this BS to start believing it yourself.
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:29 pm
DutchLiam84User avatarPosts: 382Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:27 pmLocation: Eurasian Plate Gender: Time Lord

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

So if our earth is fixed, that means that the entire universe would rotate around the earth once a day meaning the most distant galaxies have to move faster than the speed of light.
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Darkprophet232User avatarPosts: 226Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:42 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Oh no, see he accounts for that by assuming the universe is a giant children's arts and crafts kit.

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DutchLiam84User avatarPosts: 382Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:27 pmLocation: Eurasian Plate Gender: Time Lord

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Yeah but that was only about the planets in our solar system right? If you apply Occams Razor to both models I think that heliocentrism would have the least amount of assumptions. It's not really an argument but a spirograph like pattern of orbits doesn't make that much sense. I guess this is an argument from incredulity on my behalf, but still.
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Master_Ghost_KnightContributorUser avatarPosts: 2630Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:57 pmLocation: Netherlands Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Daealis wrote:It's also funny when he tries to shuffle a conspiracy theory in there, with the "NASA still uses geocentrism is launch calculations!"-line(maybe that was some other video, got lost in YT Geocentrism-land for a while). It couldn't be because the rockets are launched from earth, and so the calculations have to be calculated as if earth was the centre of launch, could it?

It doesn't, it bloody hell doesn't.
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Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2502Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Geocentrism has a LOT of problems, beyond what has been mentioned in this thread.

I recommend watching CoolHardLogic's series on geocentrism. I did recently and enjoyed it immensely.

Here is part 1:


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WarKChat ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 1164Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:59 am Gender: Tree

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Gnug215 wrote:Geocentrism has a LOT of problems, beyond what has been mentioned in this thread.

I recommend watching CoolHardLogic's series on geocentrism. I did recently and enjoyed it immensely.

Here is part 1:




I'm enjoying the vids. Good work.
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Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:31 pm
he_who_is_nobodyBloggerUser avatarPosts: 3148Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:36 amLocation: Albuquerque, New Mexico Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Gnug215 wrote:Geocentrism has a LOT of problems, beyond what has been mentioned in this thread.

I recommend watching CoolHardLogic's series on geocentrism. I did recently and enjoyed it immensely.

Here is part 1:




Those are wonderfully done videos. If lifepsyop found his way to this thread, those videos are the ones I was going to present to him as evidence. I also would have invited CoolHardLogic to join the forum so he could obliterate lifepsyop on this topic as well.
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VisakiUser avatarPosts: 666Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:26 pmLocation: Helsinki, Finland Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

DutchLiam84 wrote:So if our earth is fixed, that means that the entire universe would rotate around the earth once a day meaning the most distant galaxies have to move faster than the speed of light.

Scratch "Most distant galaxies". Neptune would be going faster than light.

P.S. Yeah, I cheated and watched CHL's videos. Again.
Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:37 pm
Dave B.Posts: 119Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:13 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Gravity. You lose.

The way this guy talks annoys the shit out of me.
Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:48 pm
herebedragonsUser avatarPosts: 31Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:16 am

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

The video below appears to be created by lifepsyop and I think it is a great insight into how his mind works and why actual evidence will not dent his faith.

The description of the video says:

The calculation of the trajectories in the Sun-Earth-Mars system will be performed in two different models, both in the framework of Newtonian mechanics. [Heliocentrism and Geocentrism].

While he can get the computer animation to simulate geocentrism, it could not work according to Newtonian mechanics, could it? What mechanism could possibly drive the planets and sun to move in such strange, spiral orbits (besides the spirograph)? Not Newtonian mechanics! It makes no sense.

Here is a web page linked on his YouTube channel. I don't know that it is his, but It has every characteristic of a crank site. Spend 10 seconds there and your brain just melts

They got one thing right though. If someone insists on a literal, 6 day creation 6,000 years ago, then they should also insist on a geocentric model as well. The Biblical verses that support geocentricism (at least from a literalist view) are hard to deny. here and here

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Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:19 am
hackenslashLime TordUser avatarPosts: 2199Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:43 pm Gender: Cake

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Really enjoying those videos. Subbed. Thanks for that.
Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:34 pm
sick_jesusUser avatarPosts: 24Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:26 pmLocation: France Gender: Male

Post Re: The Fixed Earth by lifepsyop

Maybe he should test his theory by using his Christian powers of ascension to hover for a short while. If he manages that, and after some time hasn't crashed into one of the four walls or ceiling, then he wins the 50p geocentric bet and can then rush out and buy a small pack of Haribo stars n' rockets to play with.


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