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Beware the Ice Age cometh!

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quantumfireball2099User avatarPosts: 155Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:52 pm Gender: Cake

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Your Funny UncleUser avatarPosts: 556Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 11:38 amLocation: UK Gender: Male

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DeathofSpeechUser avatarPosts: 220Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:28 pmLocation: I can't know with certainty Gender: Tree

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You didn't really post that...

Let's have a look. Taken from the site, self-contradictory assertions.

- Greenland glaciers are growing not melting -
"Giant Iceberg Breaks off Growing, Growing! - Greenland Glacier "
"Bare-faced lies - glacier advances but headline screams "global warming"
"Greenland icecap thickens slightly "despite warming"
"Ice returns as Greenland temperatures plummet"
"Greenland glaciers double their rate of advance"
"Greenland growing colder"


- Greenland Glaciers are melting but that's okay it's a naturally occurring event -
"Melting of Greenland ice mimics 1920s-1940s event"
"New Study Finds Greenland Ice Melt not changing "
"Greenland losing about 100 billion tons of ice a year" (...and the assertion is that it's only losing half of that)
"Magma May Be Melting Greenland Ice"


It's melting... it's growing... it's melting... it's growing...

Now lets see who these folks are and what they really said

"Giant Iceberg Breaks off Growing, Growing! - Greenland Glacier " A glacier continues to calve Icebergs, for the same reason that rivers continue to flow after the rain stops... The event can't be linked one way or the other to global warming because the data for this glacier doesn't go back far enough to be honest data. The glacier continues to flow (flow-through) because the glacier is still a glacier. The poster somehow interprets a glacier losing 1/4 of its area as "growing." The Wiki this was quote mined from is here

""Bare-faced lies - glacier advances but headline screams "global warming" Anomalies have been noted where some small portions of glaciers have thickened and this is presented as though it means the whole glacier is thickening... however, this was taken from http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ and if you read the rest of the data, it does indeed make the posting a "Bare faced lie" because the actual data is precisely contradictory to the poster's "interpretation."

"Greenland icecap thickens slightly "despite warming" What the original author actually said was, "These three glaciers are huge and collectively, they drain as much as 40 percent of the southern half of the ice sheet. All three have recently increased their speed as the temperature rose,"
That is the temperature is increasing, the flow of the glaciers is increasing... not that the glacier is growing. Ice that is warmer, is softer and has lower resistance to flow.

"Ice returns as Greenland temperatures plummet" yeah... winter does that. The original article is Here The article doesn't support the poster's interpretation.


Not bothering with the rest. One or two misinterpretations are forgivable, but this is deliberate misrepresentation. This is one of the more retarded sites I've seen.
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:21 pm
lrkunUser avatarPosts: 3831Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:37 pmLocation: R. Gender: Tree

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quantumfireball2099 wrote:http://www.iceagenow.com/growing_glaciers.htm

Thoughts? 8-)


What do you think about the site's information?
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:33 pm
quantumfireball2099User avatarPosts: 155Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:52 pm Gender: Cake

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lrkun wrote:
quantumfireball2099 wrote:http://www.iceagenow.com/growing_glaciers.htm

Thoughts? 8-)


What do you think about the site's information?


Didn't seem very reliable and didn't post any sort of peer-reviewed sitations (that I saw)... sooooo not much, but I wanted to get other peoples opinions, as I do not have a background in science.
Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:00 pm
Anachronous RexLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 2008Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:07 pmLocation: Kansas City, MO Gender: Male

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Of course the glaciers are growing... that's what they do...

The problem is that they're melting faster.

This is like mowing your lawn and then immediately afterwards saying that you have a net increase in lawn because the grass is growing.
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