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AndiferousUser avatarPosts: 2727Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:00 amLocation: Laputa Gender: Time Lord

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I quite liked the new doctor's premiere, but I loved David Tennant as the doctor so much that I'm reserving judgment on Matt Smith until I've seen a few more episodes. This episode seemed a lot tamer than many and most of the others, and I suppose it had a bit of a "fairy tale" and "superhero" mix for me; almost child-like. I'm curious to hear what everyone thought about the new look at the new doctor...

Anyway, I suppose I'm a bit doctor obsessed at the moment, so felt a need to make a new topic. ;)

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Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:49 pm
ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5001Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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They all have their strengths, I think. I can't remember any Sylvester McCoy ones, but I seem to have a memory of him up against Bertie Basset which, one presumes, was the low point for the series... Probably Michael Grade's fault.
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:00 am
IBSpifyUser avatarPosts: 454Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:06 am Gender: Pinecone

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I'm with you on this one, I'm going to miss David as the doctor, but Matt seems fairly heavily David inspired so perhaps some of the quirkiness will remain but it's still far too early to pass any kind of judgment on him as the doctor yet.
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PatrickTheScienceGuyUser avatarPosts: 150Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:26 pmLocation: My House Gender: Pinecone

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you stated that it seemed child-like. i'd like to point out that Dr. Who was a children's programme originally.
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ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5001Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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PatrickTheScienceGuy wrote:you stated that it seemed child-like. i'd like to point out that Dr. Who was a children's programme originally.


Family programming, actually... It still is.
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:48 pm
AndiferousUser avatarPosts: 2727Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:00 amLocation: Laputa Gender: Time Lord

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Prolescum wrote:
PatrickTheScienceGuy wrote:you stated that it seemed child-like. i'd like to point out that Dr. Who was a children's programme originally.


Family programming, actually... It still is.


True enough, although episodes did scare me out of my wits when I was a kid.

Some of the episodes in the past few seasons were very dark and my daughter isn't ready for that kind of thing. ;)
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:57 pm
OnkelCannabiaUser avatarPosts: 156Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:46 pmLocation: Germany

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I've only watched the new series and a few episodes from the old one. While Matt is much better than I had expected David Tennant is still the best for me, and probably will be for a long time to come.
Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:17 pm
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Gunboat DiplomatUser avatarPosts: 394Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:02 pm

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The premiere of okay. It wasn't as grand as I anticipated even though the entire world was at stake. It definitely had a lot of classic Moffat elements...

I don't like the new opening nor the new logo although I understand the desire to have something small and easily presented. The clouds and lightning looked silly while the old opening got away with being more abstract. I didn't like the new music at first but it has grown on me. It has a more horror feel to it than its predecessors...

Matt made an adequate Doctor...

The story was a little silly, especially the magical computer virus, but it had many good elements to it. The series setup was done well and I'm looking forward to seeing what else they've done with the series.

I do like the knew Tardis. I never liked the previous Tardis interior (nor the previous logo). It was too organic and simple. The new one is more busy and cavernous. The Tardis interior was always byzantine and that was never used nor shown during the reboot series...


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Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:55 am
benjy85pbPosts: 24Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:39 pmLocation: Sussex, England Gender: Male

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So far, from the re-boot of Doctor Who I still prefer Christopher Eccleston. But from the series that has just begun, so far my thumbs up go to the new assistance. Very very very nice. ;)
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Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:57 pm
OnkelCannabiaUser avatarPosts: 156Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:46 pmLocation: Germany

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Just rewatched The Eleventh Hour. Best line of the whole episode "Well that's rubbish, who's that supposed to be?" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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AndiferousUser avatarPosts: 2727Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:00 amLocation: Laputa Gender: Time Lord

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They've recently opened the vaults and put some new things in the BBC Archives. From the BBC website:

Doctor Who's regenerations were modelled on bad LSD trips, internal BBC memos have revealed.

The Doctor's transformations were meant to convey the "hell and dank horror" of the hallucinogenic drug, according to papers published on the BBC Archive.

Regenerations were introduced in 1966 to allow writers to replace the lead actor. New Doctor Matt Smith is the 11th Time Lord.

The papers also reveal the difficulties of bedding in a new Doctor.

In an internal memo dating from 1966, producers outlined how the original Doctor, William Hartnell, would be transformed for his successor Patrick Troughton.

It also tackled the "horrifying experience" of the regeneration.

"The metaphysical change... is a horrifying experience - an experience in which he relives some of the most unendurable moments of his long life, including the galactic war," it said.

"It is as if he has had the LSD drug and instead of experiencing the kicks, he has the hell and dank horror which can be its effect," the memo added.

Discussing his appearance, the document stated: "His hair is wild and his clothes look rather worse for wear (this is a legacy from the metaphysical change which took place in the Tardis)."


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Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:28 am
creamcheeseUser avatarPosts: 145Joined: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:47 amLocation: CA, USA Gender: Male

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I never really got into Dr. Who, it seems rather quaint... but don't listen to me, I'm just an uncultured American.
Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:20 am
ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5001Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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creamcheese wrote:I never really got into Dr. Who, it seems rather quaint... but don't listen to me, I'm just an uncultured American.


Well quaint isn't an insult...
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nasher168League LegendUser avatarPosts: 2518Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:34 pmLocation: Derby, UK Gender: Male

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creamcheese wrote:I never really got into Dr. Who, it seems rather quaint... but don't listen to me, I'm just an uncultured American.


In the out-of-context words of David Tennant:
"Don't you ever think it's... well... a bit rubbish?" :lol:

It's occasionally a bit cheesy, but for all that, there will always be really good ones (e.g. the Weeping Angels episode).
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AndiferousUser avatarPosts: 2727Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:00 amLocation: Laputa Gender: Time Lord

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I think Doctor Who shows better when you start at the beginning (or at least the beginning of the new series in 2005). Also, a person really has to have an appreciation for silliness and satire, because it really is an odd combination of cheese and darker/emotional themes.

Moffat: Doctor Who to get scarier

(UKPA), 3 hours ago

Doctor Who fans are set to see things get super-scary on the new series, according to the show's writer Steven Moffat.

Grounded in LA because of the volcanic ash, Steven came out to celebrate BritWeek in Hollywood and revealed things are going to get quite creepy from this weekend onwards.

"Episode four has the weeping angels and Alex Kingston returning. I think its one of the scariest ones we've ever done - my little boy says it's the scariest thing he's ever seen in Doctor Who," he said.

He went on: "The first three [episodes] have been moderately scary. We're now going for proper scares in four and five, and in six actually, so some good spine chilling stuff on its way."

But Steven says he's not too worried about the show's younger viewers.

"If you took a vote amongst the playgrounds of Britain they'd all be saying 'make it scary, you're meant to be behind that sofa!'"

According to the writer, the whole cast and crew has been bowled over by viewers' reaction to Matt Smith taking over the lead role.

"I thought it'd take four or five weeks to get to where we got after the first broadcast, but people just seem to have fallen in love with him instantly."
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Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:58 pm
MRaverzPosts: 1838Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:00 am Gender: Pinecone

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I'm looking forward to some darker episodes, it's what I loved about the first new series.
Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:01 pm
australopithecusAdministratorUser avatarPosts: 4282Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 pmLocation: Kernow Gender: Time Lord

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A few dark episodes would be awesome and Moffat is the guy to do it properly. Also, more shouty, righteous indignation Doctor plz. The last 10 mintes of 'The Beast Below' were fantastic.
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Ibis3User avatarPosts: 121Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:29 pmLocation: Clarington, Ontario, Canada Gender: Female

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Warning: Spoilers!

This thread is a bit old, but I didn't see a more recent one. I really like the new Doctor. Still getting used to the opening/logo. Love Amy Pond.

I think we're a bit behind here in Canada (they just aired Cold Blood last night, so please no spoilers). Ahh, poor Rory. I expect he'll be resurrected once they've sorted out this crack in time business. A shard of the exploded TARDIS though? Whew. This should be very exciting.

Can I quibble a little bit with the stupidity of having a saurian race with teats? Oh, and calling them Homo reptilia? Ugh. Every cladistician (is that a word?) is rolling in their grave or pulling out tufts of hair.
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ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5001Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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Indeed, the unnecessary mammalian glands are somewhat of a cock-up, but overall the series has been ace.

The new logo's alright, but the intro (and its score) are awful. At least over David Tennant's reign, the musical score made up for the daft logo.

Crap



Brilliant

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australopithecusAdministratorUser avatarPosts: 4282Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 pmLocation: Kernow Gender: Time Lord

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This is the second time on a second forum the cladistic nonsense of Silurians with boobs has come up :lol: and the Homo reptilia classification. As much as I like scientific accuracy I'm allowing these to slide, though I though Reptilia sapiens would have been better.

As for the new intro, the theme sucks big ones however I love the time vortex CGI. The intro with the old theme would be pretty damn cool.

Ibis3 wrote:I think we're a bit behind here in Canada (they just aired Cold Blood last night, so please no spoilers).


You're in for a treat, the next 3 episodes are very, very, very good indeed. Series finale next week, can't wait.
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