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derkvanlUser avatarPosts: 164Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:32 pm Gender: Male

Post Plans for .xxx top-level domain pop up again

The .xxx domain is back on the table. The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) will reconsider the top-level domain during a meeting in Kenya this week, nearly three years after it was shot down and nine years after it was first introduced as a way to identify pornography sites and hopefully confine them to their own Internet red-light district.

The .xxx domain was first proposed in 2001 and approved in 2005 for exclusive (but voluntary) use by the adult entertainment industry. The idea was to provide a place for porn sites online that would be explicitly obvious from the domain, which would not only help consenting adults find the sites, it would also help parents and corporations better block access to them.


When I read this I can't help reading some other plan to control the internet.

If we want internet to stay open I think that toplevel domains should be opened up for registration by anyone who likes to have one.
Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:31 pm
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borrofburiModeratorPosts: 3527Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:27 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Plans for .xxx top-level domain pop up again

It helps whoever wants to block them to block them, whether that be an individual, a parent, a school, a corporation, or a government. It's the latter that bothers me...
Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:38 am
)O( Hytegia )O(League LegendUser avatarPosts: 3135Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:27 pm Gender: Cake

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I like my own saying on such matters:

If one's freedom is cuffed up - you're nothing but a man in chains.

I say we make it optional, or have corperation control over it... Not the government.
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:44 am
derkvanlUser avatarPosts: 164Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:32 pm Gender: Male

Post Re: Plans for .xxx top-level domain pop up again

borrofburi wrote:It helps whoever wants to block them to block them, whether that be an individual, a parent, a school, a corporation, or a government. It's the latter that bothers me...

If they want to use .xxx to block they have to pre-filter domains that are "not allowed" on the "normal" top-level domains. If this one succeeds, we can prepare for more seperated internets.
Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:20 am
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nemesissUser avatarPosts: 1259Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:29 pm

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well it would make it easier for those over protective parents to block stuff the do not want.
a bit of structure isn't too bad, as long as it put too much restrictions on the internet.
there might be a lot of stuff you might not want your kids to come in contact with, but can't protect them forever (even though these babythumpers will try anyway) and the only way to make sure they know how to use internet safely, is to educate them in perhaps a similar way to contraception... which also seems to be a difficult issue for these nutjobs... and certain other groups.


as for a .xxx domain, i don't think many people could REALLY care about it. it might be interesting for people who want to start a porn site, where the .com name has been taken.

i wonder how much countries ACTUALLY use a .gov domain besides the USA...
Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:39 pm
DemojenPosts: 614Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:34 am

Post Re: Plans for .xxx top-level domain pop up again

Canada does.
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:34 pm
ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5009Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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So does the UK.
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:25 pm
MRaverzPosts: 1838Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:00 am Gender: Pinecone

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Prolescum wrote:So does the UK.

UK has .gov.uk

.gov is US only.
Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:39 pm
e2iPiUser avatarPosts: 648Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:40 amLocation: Deltax Deltap>~h/(4 pi) Gender: Cake

Post Re: Plans for .xxx top-level domain pop up again

So was I the only one who found the phrase "pop up" the the title of this particular thread just the slightest bit humorous?

(shrug) could just be the juvenile which is still trapped in this aging body of mine.

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Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:13 am
FingerUser avatarPosts: 354Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:13 amLocation: California

Post Re: Plans for .xxx top-level domain pop up again

Since when is "pop up" a sexual innuendo?

I don't see what the big deal is about '.xxx'. Just another TLD option. It probably won't catch on anyway, at least not to the more popular sites. Remember when '.biz' was suppose to be "just for businesses"? '.xxx' won't be any different. In business, the consumer needs to know how to find you and people are more likely to remember a '.com' url than an unusual one. I suppose one could start crying censorship if they started requiring all pornographic websites to register '.xxx' and prohibited pornography from being displayed on any other TLD.
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:08 am
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acheronPosts: 73Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:41 am Gender: Male

Post Re: Plans for .xxx top-level domain pop up again

ICANN has a political problem on its hands with .xxx and other new TLD (top level domains). The problem is this: the most powerful voices at ICANN are the registrars, and the registrars want to make more money. Adding new TLDs is a license to print money for the registrars.

Companies want to control their names, and thus will feel obligated to buy all variants available. Just as today, where the goal for a corporate entity would be to own companyname.com, companyname.org, companyname.net, companyname.biz, companyname.info (maybe), and companyname.cctld (CCTLDs are the country code names like .us, .ca, .uk, etc), if more new TLDs are added, each company will want the new version(s) to protect its name. In fact, it may be *required* to buy the new TLDs by law, or be viewed as abandoning its trademarks.

The conflict with the registrars comes from two sides: first, the fact that very few of the registrars' clients actually want more TLDs, and second, from the unusual financial problems ICANN itself has. ICANN is a non-profit organization, and it makes far too much money. Far far too much money. The president of ICANN makes USD750000 base salary with USD195000 possible bonus (http://www.icann.org/en/financials/comp ... n10-en.pdf), plus benefits and expenses... well over double what the president of the United States makes. It has few costs other than travel, and it even pays for travel for many delegates to its meetings, which tend to be held in exotic locations around the world. There are a number of voices within ICANN who don't want more TLDs because they don't want ICANN to have to deal with another deluge of money that has to be allocated somewhere in order not to make a profit.

At any rate, the politics and profiteering aside, .xxx in particular is a useless TLD. Companies will always buy their name in .xxx just to make sure there isn't a porn site there. Adult content providers aren't going to give up their .com addresses. Because of those facts, filtering doesn't get easier, it's just another round of profiteering and think-of-the-children backpatting with no change or benefit to end users.

If .xxx is approved, there'll be plenty of money for a few landrush domain squatters... some good bets might be disney.xxx, msnbc.xxx, tomcruise.xxx, vatican.xxx... just think about people or companies with money who don't want to be associated with porn.
Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:18 am
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