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*SD*User avatarPosts: 237Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:00 amLocation: Wales, UK Gender: Male

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What's the name of the channel he's using? I guess he probably has more than one but which one are you referring to?
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Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:41 pm
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tsarenvyPosts: 63Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:01 am

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SD_STRIKEBREAKER wrote:Hi All,
Just signed up, this forum was brought to my attention by....... Jason Burns!


Jason has done more to promote atheism than most of the people on this forum combined : )
Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:48 pm
HamsterPosts: 83Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:54 pmLocation: wisconsin Gender: Male

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SD_STRIKEBREAKER wrote:What's the name of the channel he's using? I guess he probably has more than one but which one are you referring to?


Jays most funny channel seems to be AtheismExamined.

Here >> http://www.youtube.com/user/AtheismExam ... ture=watch

Its a mixture of Jason and anything he can find that supports his views.

Read the comments from viewers ! :roll:
Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:16 pm
EngelbertPosts: 290Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:03 am Gender: Male

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Jason Burns is a good man, trying to do the best by his beliefs.
Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:28 pm
*SD*User avatarPosts: 237Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:00 amLocation: Wales, UK Gender: Male

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Hamster wrote:
SD_STRIKEBREAKER wrote:What's the name of the channel he's using? I guess he probably has more than one but which one are you referring to?


Jays most funny channel seems to be AtheismExamined.

Here >> http://www.youtube.com/user/AtheismExam ... ture=watch

Its a mixture of Jason and anything he can find that supports his views.

Read the comments from viewers ! :roll:


Haha, I found it, watched about 6-7 of his new videos, absolutely nothing has changed, nothing new to see. His mood swings are as chronic as they ever were, the content of his videos is the same as it always was and his approach as weak and feeble as it ever was. He knows absolutely nothing about either side of the argument/topic, he doesn't even understand his own "side" let alone beyond it. Yet he will persist with his delusion of being some intellectual sledgehammer.
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Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:50 pm
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ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5007Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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Engelbert wrote:Jason Burns is a good man, trying to do the best by his beliefs.


Perhaps someone who knows him should make him aware of the chasm that seems to exist between his purported knowledge and that which has been evident thus far, eh pooks? Best intentions are all well and good, but it seems to me, and of course I could be entirely wrong, that he's one of the most ill-equipped preachers I've come across. From the outside it looks like he's more interested in the attention than the conversation.

As I say, I could be way off (benefit of the doubt and all that jizz), I've only been aware of his existence since the 13th of March.
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Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:51 pm
*SD*User avatarPosts: 237Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:00 amLocation: Wales, UK Gender: Male

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Prolescum wrote:
Engelbert wrote:Jason Burns is a good man, trying to do the best by his beliefs.


Perhaps someone who knows him should make him aware of the chasm that seems to exist between his purported knowledge and that which has been evident thus far, eh pooks? Best intentions are all well and good, but it seems to me, and of course I could be entirely wrong, that he's one of the most ill-equipped preachers I've come across. From the outside it looks like he's more interested in the attention than the conversation.

As I say, I could be way off (benefit of the doubt and all that jizz), I've only been aware of his existence since the 13th of March.


+Agree

Also suspected this poster was either Jason (although I must admit I don't think sock accounts are his style) or some supporter of his.
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:34 am
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EngelbertPosts: 290Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:03 am Gender: Male

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Prolescum wrote:
Engelbert wrote:Jason Burns is a good man, trying to do the best by his beliefs.


Perhaps someone who knows him should make him aware of the chasm that seems to exist between his purported knowledge and that which has been evident thus far, eh pooks? Best intentions are all well and good, but it seems to me, and of course I could be entirely wrong, that he's one of the most ill-equipped preachers I've come across. From the outside it looks like he's more interested in the attention than the conversation.

As I say, I could be way off (benefit of the doubt and all that jizz), I've only been aware of his existence since the 13th of March.




Pooks? No. An attention seeker on youtube? That seems curious. And yes he probably is, but also seems to have earned a reputation as a bit of a character compos mentis or not. I've not heard him boast of his own intellect to the extent that some accuse him. "I'm just an old fashioned preacher" is something I've oft heard him say.

He has made fanciful claims about his upcoming paper, but I wonder how much of it is tongue in cheek and how much he genuinely believes he will produce a world renowned document.

He is an eccentric who makes highly inflammatory arguments sometimes and deservedly takes criticism, but beyond some of these ridiculous moments is a bloke who can offer some very positive things.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:01 am
tsarenvyPosts: 63Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:01 am

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Engelbert wrote:He is an eccentric who makes highly inflammatory arguments sometimes and deservedly takes criticism, but beyond some of these ridiculous moments is a bloke who can offer some very positive things.


Such as?
Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:52 am
ukandystreetUser avatarPosts: 11Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:01 am

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First off a quick hello from another refugee of Jason's YouTube channel. :)

Prolescum wrote:
Engelbert wrote:Jason Burns is a good man, trying to do the best by his beliefs.


Perhaps someone who knows him should make him aware of the chasm that seems to exist between his purported knowledge and that which has been evident thus far, eh pooks?

TBH I suspect that he is aware but can't admit it. For most people (at least the ones I know) religion is only a part of their life but with Jason it is all consuming; it's his education, his employment history, his hobby and his social life. IMO he has to keep this charade going wheather he likes it or not because he has bet the house on Christianity.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:53 am
EngelbertPosts: 290Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:03 am Gender: Male

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tsarenvy wrote:
Engelbert wrote:He is an eccentric who makes highly inflammatory arguments sometimes and deservedly takes criticism, but beyond some of these ridiculous moments is a bloke who can offer some very positive things.


Such as?



He attempts so often to offer kindness and friendship to people and I accept there are counter examples to this. He offers a forum for people to discuss philosophy and engage in ideas. Youtube exists independently, but he brings up content that piques people's curiosity and engages them in his chosen subject matter. You may counter that he has blocked commenters and I would have to acknowledge that he has, but when evaluating the extent to which he has offered freedom of expression against his censorship, I believe that the freedom would be in vast excess. He offers free engagement on his blogTV show. Whether you agree with his ideas or not, such a forum can be a beneficial thing for all those involved. Everyone learns something, even if it isn't quite what Jason is hoping for and everyone has the chance to talk about topics that he brings up.

So many videos of his go under the radar, un-noticed and un-responded to by the regulars. Why because such videos are non-controversial, or difficult to argue against. A video espousing the message of love in Christianity draws little or far less attention than one about the falsehood of evolution. These videos are many in number and yet go almost entirely neglected. Videos about humility, forgiveness, love, etc. Why do they go un-noticed? Because people are more interested in responding to other less defensible aspects of his beliefs. The positive messages are left on the shelf as most seek to pwn a questionable statement about evolution.

I could go on further but that's not a bad start, for someone so sneered at by many.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:23 am
HamsterPosts: 83Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:54 pmLocation: wisconsin Gender: Male

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Jason as a minister fills me with dread. I do not feel he has the stability to counsel others. It is possible he is playing some complex game but where does he find the time ?

He now seems to be wielding the ban hammer, if he continues he will have no viewers.

His latest series seems to be How ro Know God. I scanned one video and it seemed to be a title card only.

I could try a comment like "Know God ? you mean biblically ? " but I won't.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:32 am
HamsterPosts: 83Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:54 pmLocation: wisconsin Gender: Male

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I dont believe Jason "engages" with anyone. His videos show a consistant ability to ignore what he has been told about science and even about logic.

His videos that dont get views by the regulars are simply copied from other channels and are not worth commenting on in Jays channel.

I suspect Jason would not have viewers if he didnt show a cycle of conduct that keeps people guessing what craziness he will exhibit today.

If Jadon has family , friends or an employer I would hope they step in and get him help.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:47 am
EngelbertPosts: 290Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:03 am Gender: Male

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Hamster wrote:I dont believe Jason "engages" with anyone. His videos show a consistant ability to ignore what he has been told about science and even about logic.

His videos that dont get views by the regulars are simply copied from other channels and are not worth commenting on in Jays channel.

I suspect Jason would not have viewers if he didnt show a cycle of conduct that keeps people guessing what craziness he will exhibit today.

If Jadon has family , friends or an employer I would hope they step in and get him help.



Engagement doesn't necessitate agreement. Checking back over Jason's countless videos and many channels is a tall order, but there are many messages and simple scriptural teachings he gives that can be admirable.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:07 am
TheAtheistJehovahUser avatarPosts: 52Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:48 am Gender: Male

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The Bible has some interesting books in it, some of the literature is brilliant, anybody who can read can see this.

But Jason does ignore or simply not listen, i have made videos and personally asked him to respond - but he doesn't. I have answered many points he has raised, just recently he kept talking about epistemology, i asked him to speak about it, so what does he do? What he did is what i have just said: ignores me. He has even blocked me for responding to subjects he has raised in the past, the problem with Jason is he can't be challenged.

He has to be right all the time, this makes it very hard to hold dialogue. He also uses words in such ways which makes discussion incoherent or turn just into semantics.

Last night he blocked me for asking a question on Skype, he was saying i was arguing when it was him with the chip on his shoulder, and it was him who was arguing. He has also just blocked me for commenting on his page about how his video is contradictory - which it is. :roll:
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:06 am
tsarenvyPosts: 63Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:01 am

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Engelbert wrote:He attempts so often to offer kindness and friendship to people and I accept there are counter examples to this. He offers a forum for people to discuss philosophy and engage in ideas. Youtube exists independently, but he brings up content that piques people's curiosity and engages them in his chosen subject matter. You may counter that he has blocked commenters and I would have to acknowledge that he has, but when evaluating the extent to which he has offered freedom of expression against his censorship, I believe that the freedom would be in vast excess. He offers free engagement on his blogTV show. Whether you agree with his ideas or not, such a forum can be a beneficial thing for all those involved. Everyone learns something, even if it isn't quite what Jason is hoping for and everyone has the chance to talk about topics that he brings up.

So many videos of his go under the radar, un-noticed and un-responded to by the regulars. Why because such videos are non-controversial, or difficult to argue against. A video espousing the message of love in Christianity draws little or far less attention than one about the falsehood of evolution. These videos are many in number and yet go almost entirely neglected. Videos about humility, forgiveness, love, etc. Why do they go un-noticed? Because people are more interested in responding to other less defensible aspects of his beliefs. The positive messages are left on the shelf as most seek to pwn a questionable statement about evolution.

I could go on further but that's not a bad start, for someone so sneered at by many.



I'll give you that he does provide a platform for, generally like minded, people to engage; but I'm not sure I agree with much else. His friendships (almost) always seem to end with him accusing the other party of all sorts, case in point today with Lenny. On censorship, I suppose he gets points for this, but allowing dissenting opinion, though not the neutral position for a lot of YouTube fundies, kind of is a neutral position as a general rule so. I've seen plenty of comments on his videos about Christian love. It's hard to take videos like this seriously when they're sandwiched by vidoes about atheists being genocidal etc And I don't think its sinister that atheists would glaze over his hours long sermons and critique the videos that explicitly and provocatively address them.

I'm not saying he's evil or wicked or anything, I just don't think there's this warm gooey centre hidden inside a barbed exterior. I think if anything he gets cut slack because he's a bit out there, but for most of the time he seems to go out of his way to piss people off and generally be a bit of a nob.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:11 am
TheAtheistJehovahUser avatarPosts: 52Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:48 am Gender: Male

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It's funny how he says this in the video:

"To be banned by a christian is one of the most horrible things that could happen, because it's showing people how terrible and 'anti-democratic' you are". :o :shock: :cry: :ugeek: :facepalm:
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:45 am
Jen MartensePosts: 29Joined: Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:54 pm Gender: Cake

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TheAtheistJehovah wrote:It's funny how he says this in the video:

"To be banned by a christian is one of the most horrible things that could happen, because it's showing people how terrible and 'anti-democratic' you are". :o :shock: :cry: :ugeek: :facepalm:

Getting blocked by Christians is about the easiest achievement on YouTube. Just point out one of their lies. They hate that, and it's a target rich environment.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:09 am
Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2653Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

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ukandystreet wrote:First off a quick hello from another refugee of Jason's YouTube channel. :)

Prolescum wrote:
Perhaps someone who knows him should make him aware of the chasm that seems to exist between his purported knowledge and that which has been evident thus far, eh pooks?

TBH I suspect that he is aware but can't admit it. For most people (at least the ones I know) religion is only a part of their life but with Jason it is all consuming; it's his education, his employment history, his hobby and his social life. IMO he has to keep this charade going wheather he likes it or not because he has bet the house on Christianity.



Welcome aboard!

Just making sure people see your post, since it took a little while for you to be approved, and people managed to post in the meantime. :)
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:31 am
Gnug215ModeratorUser avatarPosts: 2653Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

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Engelbert wrote:
Pooks? No. An attention seeker on youtube? That seems curious. And yes he probably is, but also seems to have earned a reputation as a bit of a character compos mentis or not. I've not heard him boast of his own intellect to the extent that some accuse him. "I'm just an old fashioned preacher" is something I've oft heard him say.

He has made fanciful claims about his upcoming paper, but I wonder how much of it is tongue in cheek and how much he genuinely believes he will produce a world renowned document.

He is an eccentric who makes highly inflammatory arguments sometimes and deservedly takes criticism, but beyond some of these ridiculous moments is a bloke who can offer some very positive things.



I appreciate your balanced view, and yourability to give someone a chance, but I think you are, in fact, being too lenient.

Let me make my case by quoting some of Jason's posts on this forum:

Jason101 wrote:Grow up AronRa. You are not honest.You are the one who can't hack it.Be a man and get some rules down.Take my paper then move on from that.The rest of what you say is just being a silly kid.As for the barmy army over at my YouTube channel,well they are the product of your crazy militant die hard atheism.I'm sick to death of your militant atheism .I could take five of you with one had behind my back.The point is you are not rational,you are not even normal.You are a fanatical group .If you want to be treated with respect then cut the fanaticism.As for Richard Carrier his scholarship is a joke.I have no respect for his crazy ideas that the world of scholarship laugh at.Last of all it is wise to talk to the man you are talking about and not to people behind his back.If I say something I will come to you.You Sir are a coward,a bully,Intellectually dishonest,you are pompous and arrogant , and nasty with it. Now you and dprjones need to change.I have no respect for MSS. It lacks culture and it lacks love.You want to mess with me,you have no chance .Now take your bullying butt to dprjones .If you or the atheist community want academic debates give me the dates,subjects and I will come- but you want me to swim in "this swamp of pseudo-intellectual dog fight militant atheist forums" then I have better things to do.take Care AronRa.I mean it,take care.Enjoy your life and have a nice day yours Jason preacher of the gospel. Ps I will write books that will sell more than yours,you see.


Let's start with this post of his. I think it details the problem very clearly.

Here you see him boast, with lines like "I could take five of you with one had behind my back.", ".You want to mess with me,you have no chance .", and "Ps I will write books that will sell more than yours,you see."

Well, boasting is one thing, but to do it in such a childish matter actually, seriously has me questioning his mental state. I know that may sound as typical Internet hyperbole, but it isn't. I am actually wondering.

Most of the rest of his post is slander and insults, but let me highlight a couple: "The point is you are not rational,you are not even normal.You are a fanatical group .", and "You Sir are a coward,a bully,Intellectually dishonest,you are pompous and arrogant , and nasty with it."

Now, he can also be friendly, but in this context, that makes it a lot worse, in my opinion. After his negative diatribe, he finishes with this: "take Care AronRa.I mean it,take care.Enjoy your life and have a nice day yours Jason preacher of the gospel."

In the space of a short forum post, he goes from nasty vitriol to being overly cordial. Mind you, the cordialness does not make up for the vitriol. What it DOES do is to make the sender seem... unbalanced, two-faced.

Trust is the basis of human interaction, and his behavior does NOT engender trust.


But so, is this a one-off? A slip-up? Let's look at some of his other posts:

Jason101 wrote:So AronRa I take it you accept defeat? I always new you lacked the guts and honesty to do things the right way.So now you have been defeated and shown to be false try to change and be more mature,honest and fair.The same goes for dprjones. If you ever get some guts and want to do a real academic debate let me know until then keep up your lies,your bullying and avoiding the truth.Take care ,yours Jay.


Again, with the childish bravado. "So AronRa I take it you accept defeat?"

Then insults: " I always new you lacked the guts and honesty to do things the right way."

Then more childish bravado: "So now you have been defeated and shown to be false try to change and be more mature,honest and fair.The same goes for dprjones."

Mind you, this supposed defeat happened WITHOUT anything resembling a debate, arguments or Jason's promised paper being presented.
Oh, and dragging dprjones into this, which is absolutely irrelevant, shows that... actually, what does it show? It's absolutely out of the blue and irrelevant to the discussion.

Now, for his next post, you should know that it was made RIGHT AFTER the above quoted one. 17 minutes after, to be precise.

Jason101 wrote:So AronRa I give you one last chance.Will you take my academic paper in two weeks time? Will you treat me with respect ? I will treat you the same.Will you get some good ground rules? If you do I will apologize for all the things I have said.If not everything I said was true.The ball is in your court now,take care from Jay.


AronRa hasn't even had time to respond (or anyone else on the forum, for that matter), and then Jason posts again, with seemingly new claims. That is telling enough in itself, I think (with regards to evaluating Jason's personality and character), but perhaps even more telling is Jason's demand: he wants AronRa to get some good ground rules. IF AronRa does that, Jason will apologize for all the things he's said, indicating that Jason knows full well that the thing's he's said about AronRa warrant apology.


11 minutes later, still without anyone responding:
Jason101 wrote:I know you have not a lot of time,so we can work round your life,no problem.But if you can't say yes to my questions then I'm done and you have wasted my time,like I said balls in your court.Yes or no?Be clear!Take care.


Impatience is one thing, but this is ridiculous!


Moving on:
Jason101 wrote:AronRa looks like you are on the run . I gave you a video telling you what will happen .You will get an academic paper and then we meet live one on one Ok? So do not back out of this now.You can't talk big then back out.My secretary , english teacher mate and two academic mates at the univeristy of Manchester will proof read my paper . My essay will be world class .You will get it .Then a few days form you getting the paper you will meet me in live debate .My last words .Now get the debate sorted please with Lying Ghost Show .They are great people I have a lot of time for them .See you in two to three weeks ,we shall see what you can do then,take care now and have a nice day- yours Jay- bad grammar with balls.


Emphasis mine.

World class, no less. In two to three weeks, no less. And it will be academic!

I don't see how one can defend such boasting, even if it came from a world class (classified as such by peers, that is) academic.

And then he makes demands that AronRa never agreed to from the onset, about a live debate on the LG Show. This seems to be a recurring theme.

(Oh dear, I accidentally typed "love debate" instead of "live debate" initially.)


Further along in the thread, we get a post by user WalkingFish, who offered a list of videos that Jason has made about AronRa: viewtopic.php?p=149541#p149541

Without prior knowledge of Jason, I could have sworn the videos on that list were made by a disturbed teenager. I think they speak for themselves.
The sheer amount says something, too. It seems clear that Jason has an unhealthy obsession with AronRa.

Evidently, Jason also has a whole YouTube channel dedicated to AronRa: http://www.youtube.com/user/aronraexposed


A few days pass, then Jason returns with one of his more pleasant posts, which again seem rather eerie and disturbing in context with what we've previously seen from him.

And then another post:
Jason101 wrote:I will send you the Paper AronRa but it looks like you have no bottle .I thought deep down I might be wrong.I thought he might just be honest .But I see I was right .You have a chance to use your razer sharp brain and very clever community to take to bits my paper .But you refuse to do so .I do not understand . I will send the paper for the sake of truth .I'm enjoying the study for the paper it is blessing me . As for your rules on the forum well AronRa no one tells me what to do .No one can force me .All my life I have been a rebel . Don't "Underestimate Me". The paper you will get will make you think I promise . Now I take it from your last comment as I will not play your game then it is all over .That is ok ,but will send the paper to you .I invite all the young people who go on these atheist sites to read the paper and see If AronRa and these modern atheists like Thunderf00t have what it takes when they get some real critical analysis of the work they do .What you will see young people is real scholarship meet atheist pseudo scholarship .The atheist community will not have the scholarship to deal with the paper for this reason: On historical studies they are way behind evangelical scholars such as DR N T Wright ect .They will be out gunned and they know it. Not only is AronRa on trail but the whole atheist community .If they fail to deal with the paper then it is all over for them. This paper will be the "Beginning of the End " of the New Atheism . They just do not have the intellectual tools to deal with this kind of academic work. So please young people read the paper when it comes .As for you AronRa take care mate .I hope you have a great year and you do well in your work .Love to you and dprjones .He will be glad no more videos are coming from me . Take care yours Jay an evangelical rebel with balls.



An evangelical rebel with balls, who is pretty much going to take down New Atheism with his paper.

And Love to AronRa and dprjones! If I were either of them, this would be the most disconcerting thing about this message, because who would want love from such an unbalanced and two-faced person?


After this, Jason starts spamming various Christian articles, of varying relevance. This prompted (rightly) an admin to collapse the posts, so the forum pages wouldn't become a wall of (irrelevant and wholly uninteresting) text, which Jason perceived as the posts being deleted, and then seemingly accusing LoR of censorship.

Why did Jason posts these articles? Well, according to himself:
Jason101 wrote:Enyoy the reading they are scholars and writers I like . My paper is coming.


What does he think this site is? Why would he think the people here would care about scholars and writers that he likes? This total lack of situational awareness is also something I find to be an indicator of an unsympathetic personality.

The next day, he comes back, spamming more articles, in spite of people complaining.

Oh, and he also says this:
Jason101 wrote:Ps my friends have adviced me not to come on the blog as some of your people seem to be unkind in the comments.


Well, no kidding! Is this not the response to be expected from such erratic and unsympathetic behavior?


Then we have this:
Jason101 wrote:I'm going to bring The League of reason into a new dawn of intellectual life. My paper will crush AronRa and his tin pot soldiers most of them only 13 years old and can just about read a comic . My paper is not from a clown but from a world class thinker .The paper will be so good you will have to get Richard Carrier and DR Price onto it,even then they have no chance .The League of reason should thank me for the time I'm giving them.AronRa should shut up until he gets my paper . What makes me sad is how easy this is going to be. This will be such a blow to AronRa he will have to spend a few months talking to his pet snake to recover. As for the barmy army of atheists who keep making comments and uploading my videos to mock I can only say one thing to you "contra mundum ". I promise to make a paper so good it will send AronRa,Thunderf00t ,Dprjones , and Concordance into orgasmic intellectual fits. I promise this paper will be so good that not one athiest will be laughing .You will all run away knowing what a bunch of cowards and liars you are .Take it form me you are playing with the big boys now so you are going to get one hell of a intellectual fight. League of reason you must be thanked for giving me a chance to bury the new atheism once and for all .My paper is dedicated to Thomas Nagel and will be sent to him for advice .Take care atheists ,you messed with the wrong man, yours Jay -contra mundum!

[edited out where he is quoting someone, as it's irrelevant]


I would emphasize the most egregious parts, but as I think is evident, it's all pretty egregious. Boasting and insults are intertwined in this little tirade, and there are no redeeming qualities in this message. The fact that he finishes with a tiny bit of courtesy and friendliness (the "take care" part) doesn't help at all - on the contrary: it makes it seem disingenuous and downright creepy.

Seriously, what kind of person would make such a post? Delusions of grandeur, en masse.


The fun continues:
Jason101 wrote:"Unlike you, Jason, I am not committed to defend my position even if I think it is wrong."By AronRa .Hey folks if this is the best AronRa can do then I think as you get my paper we are going to have PaperGate .He is going to run.I can see from this comment he has made, it will be very easy to make him an example.AronRa I advice you to back down now.This is no joke .You are going to get crushed .I want you to save face have little pride left .Run wile you can.Make up some story.Tell them all you got to much work or Jason is crazy .I will understand . But please you have no idea what you have let yourself in for .Also please tell the administrator he will be mature one day .It takes time but we can wait. See you around when PaperGate hits the fan .I can see the headlines "ARONRA RUNS FOM JAY". O- one question to the atheist community on Youtube :What does it feel like to be a bunch of bullies?


Emphasis mine. Of course, he could still be joking, I suppose, but it seems unlikely, doesn't it?

And he can see the headlines, he says. Well of course he can! He's making them all up and putting them as the title in many of his vids!


Aaaand continues:
Jason101 wrote:Have you noticed with AronRa and his barmy army they fail to do one thing? They fail to wait and read the paper .They take silly pot shots before the main battle starts. Poor souls I feel guilty in making AronRa and his barmy army a lesson .But if they are so stupid as to be bullies then it is not my problem. I can't stand bullies.How AronRa can gang up on a girl and 4 atheist men take on one Christian girl is beyond me.You should be ashamed AronRa .The whole atheist community should be ashamed . You love to bully. See how these bullies now make post against me trying to mock me. AronRa is a bully .He will not debate me live but does pot shots on a forum as he knows he can hide if it gets tuff .He is a coward and a bully. The same goes for the league of reason . You never do things right as atheists .You are liars and cowards ,bullies the lot of you .Yes bullies 4 against one girl shame on you,shame on you AronRa .Shame on you. Now it is your turn .Now you will have one on one with me .You will get an academic paper so explosive you will run .If you stand and fight I will kick your intellectual butt so far down Texas Obama is going to have to send the FBI out to look for you .This is my time atheists .You can't run now. I have you by the balls and i'm squeezing so tite we will hear you American atheists screaming over in little old England. Peace and love from Jay.


The accusations are, of course, quite ironic, as he's making himself guilty of most of them, and more.

This "barmy army" may only have ridicule to spare, but I cannot honestly say that it isn't deserved.

Childish threats in droves again, but hey "Peace and love from Jay"! That makes it all better!


More:
Jason101 wrote:Note the atheists love to mock me with videos before I give my paper but if I put some good articles by Christian apologists they start to get upset .Cowards!!!


They mock you because your behavior is mock-worthy. There is no way around it.

Also, "good articles" is a highly subjective opinion. The fact that we would be upset by those articles themselves is, however, quite questionable. (Well, I suppose it's kind of upsetting to read bad/boring articles that espouse an unsupported opinion that most of us feel is nonsense, but you know what I mean.)

Oh btw, before making that post, he made sure to post a couple more articles, in spite of complaints and warnings about spamming.


Then he makes a couple of posts where he quotes two posts by Noth and AronRa respectively (without using the quote functions, though). He quotes their full posts, and yet doesn't really respond to them. He just offers useless one-liners, ("You atheists are not humble .You are bullies to the core." and "You are into evolution AronRa? Then tell me do you have free will? I'm doing my paper see you in a few weeks .") and doesn't address ANYthing they said, and their posts did include points, arguments and question that were fully addressable.


He then makes a couple more pointless posts, among other some with videos of people he use in his paper - which again get hidden, because it's more spam (most people would have been banned by now for breaking forum guidelines, but, in what I suppose can be called the true mockery of Jason, he is allowed to stay) - then this:

Jason101 wrote:See how the atheists cover my videos .The videos are part of my paper.If you do not show those videos then I cut all communication from this site as it is as bad as a communist group in Stalins time.You let people see them videos now ! You let them see those videos now! Put them on show now! If you do not then I have no desire to be part of a dirty communist anti intellectual joke of a forum . Cowards and full of lies.They will not even let people get into good scholarship .Pathetic! Pathetic! Pathetic! All my posts will be done over at Samuel Zwemer Theological Seminary.This place is a joke.It stops real intellectual freedom .If you want me back then get those videos clear and open to people.


Stalin! Seriously!?

He generally seems to completely misconstrue what this place actually is. It is NOT a platform for him to spew nonsense, that is certain. But as soon as he's "censored" (I use quotation marks because he isn't actually being censored - he just thinks it, apparently oblivious about the "hide/show" function, in spite being informed of it many times) he screams bloody murder. Yet another indicator of a complete lack of social awareness.


Then the thread is (rightly, I think - it's full of nonsense and not going anywhere) closed, ending with a video of Jason saying he's never coming back.

Two full days after, he's back, now in the new thread, dedicated to Jason's paper. This time he's courteus throughout, buuuut couldn't help himself spam MORE videos, which AGAIN get hidden, because they are STILL spam. And he STILL thinks the videos are missing, even when being explained AGAIN how things here work.

Then some more posting, more videos, and then, I believe, you come into the picture, with this post:

Engelbert wrote:Why do people keep getting banned here?


A fair question, but I assume you have gotten the answer to why this happened in the (I assume) two cases that you have in mind. If not, feel free to repeat your question, with more specific cases mentioned, and I will try to explain.


Then we get a little bit of correspondence between Prolescum (webmaster on LoR) and Jason.

After Prolescum gave Jason a lengthy response, addressing all Jason's points, Jason responds thusly:
AtheismExamined wrote:Go away silly man



I'll just leave that there.


Now we are almost up to speed, with one of your most recent posts:
Engelbert wrote:Jason Burns is a good man, trying to do the best by his beliefs.


I admire your defense of another person, but as I think I have demonstrated in this post, his behavior is indefensible.

You say he's trying to do the best by his beliefs, but what does that say about his beliefs?
Well, actually, in spite of not being a fan as such of Christianity, which is Jason's professed belief, I think you would agree with me when I say that I don't think Christianity is behind Jason's outrageous outbursts.

That just leaves the "man", and I do not think he is "good". His behavior is the judge of that, and the judgment, I think, is pretty clear.


Take care (and I mean that sincerely, since your behavior has been good), and I'm sorry for the lengthy post.
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