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leroyPosts: 1795Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:30 pm

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he_who_is_nobody wrote:[quoteX/(real numbers)(one's time)(one's memory)(y)(z)....

What is wrong with that equation? Would that not be how we determine the odds of picking a number at random? Remember, we are talking about the odds. If that is not how we would calculate the odds, please show us how.



the problem is that you are not suppose to multiply all that stuff




the actual ecuación would be X / the smallest of all these stuff (real numbers)(one's time)(one's memory)(y)(z)


so for example

Time = enough time to write a number with 1,000 digits or less

Memory = enough memory to type a number with 10,000 digits or less

Y = enough Y to type a number with 100,000 digits or less

Z = enough Y to type a number with 1,000,000 digits or less





Given that time is the smallest of all, equation would be x/ 1,000


so in other words, it doesn't matter if you have enough memory to type 10,000 digits or infinite XYZ, given that you only have time to type 1,000 digits, 1,000 is your limit.


UNDERSTAND?
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Fri May 19, 2017 7:08 pm
hackenslashLime TordUser avatarPosts: 2393Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:43 pm Gender: Cake

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leroy wrote:
Grumpy Santa wrote:You're being aggravatingly dishonest Leroy. You ignored these:

Do you understand that infinity is not a number, but instead is a concept?
Do you understand that any number divided by infinity is, by definition, zero?

.


yes I understand and grant both points.


however the set of numbers that can be typed in a computer is still a finite set, even after granting those 2 facts......................agree? yes o no?


No. I just typed this:

א‎0

Which is the smallest countably infinite cardinal number.

You lose. Again.

Go on, keep wriggling.
Fri May 19, 2017 8:45 pm
hackenslashLime TordUser avatarPosts: 2393Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:43 pm Gender: Cake

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leroy wrote:many things stop me, time would be an example, even with exponents logarithms decimals or whatever, there is still a limited amount of numbers that can be typed.


Just admit that you don't know any more about mathematics than you do about anything else.

You're demonstrably wrong here, and the fact that you think quoting me in your signature as some sort of gotcha is extremely telling. That statement is a demonstrable fact, despite the fact that you haven't the wherewithal to grasp it.
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Fri May 19, 2017 8:48 pm
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2959Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

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Greetings,

I think you got who said what confused, hack.

Kindest regards,

James
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Sat May 20, 2017 1:21 am
hackenslashLime TordUser avatarPosts: 2393Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:43 pm Gender: Cake

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Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

I think you got who said what confused, hack.

Kindest regards,

James


Oops, sorry James. It seems I was less than entirely diligent in my trimming of the quotes. Fixeded.
Sat May 20, 2017 8:28 am
Dragan GlasContributorUser avatarPosts: 2959Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:55 amLocation: Ireland Gender: Male

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Greetings,

hackenslash wrote:
Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

I think you got who said what confused, hack.

Kindest regards,

James


Oops, sorry James. It seems I was less than entirely diligent in my trimming of the quotes. Fixeded.

Thanks, Hack, no problem.

Kindest regards,

James
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Sat May 20, 2017 12:51 pm
leroyPosts: 1795Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:30 pm

Post Re: A math Problem

hackenslash wrote:
leroy wrote:many things stop me, time would be an example, even with exponents logarithms decimals or whatever, there is still a limited amount of numbers that can be typed.


Just admit that you don't know any more about mathematics than you do about anything else.

You're demonstrably wrong here, and the fact that you think quoting me in your signature as some sort of gotcha is extremely telling. That statement is a demonstrable fact, despite the fact that you haven't the wherewithal to grasp it.



Wrong, every time something (human, computer, robot etc.) selects a number randomly, it always selects from a finite pool of options, because there is always something that limits the options to a finite number of options. .........I provided indisputable evidence for this and you haven't presented any evidence for the contrary


No. I just typed this:

א‎0

Which is the smallest countably infinite cardinal number.

You lose. Again.

Go on, keep wriggling.


this is the kind of semantic neat picking that moderators should try to prevent.

it is still a fact that the set of numbers that can be typed in a computer is finite. and I already proved it.
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Sun May 21, 2017 2:45 pm
hackenslashLime TordUser avatarPosts: 2393Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:43 pm Gender: Cake

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You proved nothing other than that you haven't the first fucking clue of what you're talking about.

And can the backseat moderation. They know what they're doing.
Sun May 21, 2017 6:33 pm
he_who_is_nobodyBloggerUser avatarPosts: 3347Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:36 amLocation: Albuquerque, New Mexico Gender: Male

Post Re: A math Problem

leroy wrote:
he_who_is_nobody wrote:[quoteX/(real numbers)(one's time)(one's memory)(y)(z)....

What is wrong with that equation? Would that not be how we determine the odds of picking a number at random? Remember, we are talking about the odds. If that is not how we would calculate the odds, please show us how.



the problem is that you are not suppose to multiply all that stuff




the actual ecuación would be X / the smallest of all these stuff (real numbers)(one's time)(one's memory)(y)(z)


so for example

Time = enough time to write a number with 1,000 digits or less

Memory = enough memory to type a number with 10,000 digits or less

Y = enough Y to type a number with 100,000 digits or less

Z = enough Y to type a number with 1,000,000 digits or less





Given that time is the smallest of all, equation would be x/ 1,000


so in other words, it doesn't matter if you have enough memory to type 10,000 digits or infinite XYZ, given that you only have time to type 1,000 digits, 1,000 is your limit.


UNDERSTAND?


Beyond the fact that I do not know how one would determine which was the smallest, why would we only devide by the smallest variable? As I keep pointing out, we are determining the odds. I have never heard of just deviding by the smallest variable to determine the odds. Care to justify your reasoning?
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leroyPosts: 1795Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:30 pm

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he_who_is_nobody wrote:[
Beyond the fact that I do not know how one would determine which was the smallest



you don't have to determine which is the smallest, as long as you gran that at least 1 variable limits your options to a finite set of options, you would prove that the odds are grater than 1 / Infinity





he_who_is_nobody wrote:
, why would we only devide by the smallest variable? As I keep pointing out, we are determining the odds. I have never heard of just dividing by the smallest variable to determine the odds. Care to justify your reasoning?






how many McDonald's hamburgers can you eat ? what is the maximum number of hamburgers that you can eat?


in order to solve this problem you will consider all the variables that limit your options


1 the amount of hamburgers that your stomach can tolerate

2 the amount of hamburgers available in the restorant

3 the amount of hamburgers that you can pay for

4 The amount of time that you have available

5 Y

6 Z



the answer would be the smallest of all these numbers, .........agree?


it would be wrong to multiply these variables...............agree?


as long as there is 1 variable that limits your options to a finite number, the answer would be less than infinite hamburgers .............agree?


even if 2 where infinite, the answer would still be a finite number of hamburgers..............agree?
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Mon May 22, 2017 5:11 pm
he_who_is_nobodyBloggerUser avatarPosts: 3347Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:36 amLocation: Albuquerque, New Mexico Gender: Male

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Dandan/Leroy, again we are talking about the odds, not specific cases. Beyond that, you changed the situation to something that would have limits (hamburgers) from something that you admitted is infinate (the real numbers). It is almost as if you know you are wrong. In addition, your "example" demonstrates that you do not know the first thing about calculating the odds. All the variables have to be accounted for to determine the odds. There is nothing that allows one to throwout variables without first justifying that action. However, I did make a mistake with my equation. The variables need to be added, not multiplied.
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