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Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:11 am
by Sparhafoc
hackenslash wrote:....Sophie's World...


I was really surprised by this book. It was on the shelf of the house I was living in a couple of decades back in Italy. I assumed it was a kids' book initially, but when I ran out of things to read, I picked it up and was completely engrossed.


hackenslash wrote:Oh, read Republic and some bits and bots of Aristotle, as well.


Anything from the ancient world, I've read. I was on course for a degree in Classics at Oxford (unconditional offer) when I realised that was not going to be fun! :D


I'll have to see if I can brave A History of Western Philosophy - it was an optional book on my course many years ago, but I recall it being large and unwieldy and I never got round to reading it.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:32 am
by hackenslash
It's very good. It's pretty much Sophie's World for the stern of constitution.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:51 am
by hackenslash
Launched a new section of the blog, essentially a frequently-asked questions section, entitled FAAAAAAAAAAA Q! (just my little joke). It will mostly consist of short, sharp rebuttals to common apologetic arguments.

I've populated it thus far with some bits and pieces.

Hack's Top Tips for Debating Sceptics

Why Are There Still Apes

Memes, Demotivationals and Funnies

Public Service Announcements - these are something I've been doing on Twitter for quite a long time, and I get good feedback for them.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:59 pm
by hackenslash
New blog post: There's a Hole in my Model


http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2017/12/th ... model.html

A look at a recent discovery of something that shouldn't exist.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:39 am
by Sparhafoc
Great quote there, and surprising how closely I've unknowingly imitated that sentence in the past!

It also led me to check the provenance of that quote (sorry, old habit) and to thereby find another beauty...

Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth more than ruin more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.


The last is the great beauty and endless pleasure of trying out ideas, just playing with your mind. It's where the arts and sciences become indistinguishable.

It simply doesn't matter whether the ideas toyed with are right or wrong, it's the act of toying, the play, the flexing of certain cognitive muscles which provides the value, if for no other reason than exercising an ability keeps it from atrophying.

For example, reading your entry I had the wonderful idea of there being wrinkles in the fabric of reality, and black holes being artifacts of these cosmic fault lines... which in my mind were then outlined as an image of a Mandelbrot set. It's utterly wrong, of course, in so many ways... not-even-wrong, actually... but one never knows what other ideas might be spurred by such playing around.

This is one of those numerous topics that gets thrown up into a conversation by Creationists or science-deniers, but usually gets dismissed rather than discussed, that science is just about guesses. But in truth, the actual act of performing science has a huge great component of creativity: being able to see the world differently, even just for a startling moment, than any other person previously.

Of course, one must never fail prey to the narcissism which would then cause the sufferer to assume that, just because they can think it, that makes it possible, plausible or true. The rest of the scientific method steps in there to sort the wheat from the chaff, but in terms of how the process begins, discovery is necessarily about subverting what was previously held to be true through employing sheer imagination.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:19 am
by hackenslash
Nicely put.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:33 pm
by hackenslash
Further to this, in case anybody's interested, I'll be having a live discussion with the apologist in question on Youtube on the channel of a friend this evening at 17:00 UTC.

hackenslash wrote:New blog post: 7 Reasons Why Apologists Should Stop Trying to Logic

http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2017/10/7- ... -stop.html

Somebody attempts a rebuttal of my debunking of multi-omni sky-guy, with predictable results.


It should be good fun.

Channel is here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuRZvhUeRivFF9OmcpJrOFw/featured

And he's made a trailer, because quite a few people are excited about this, for some reason that I can't quite fathom.



It's hardly going to be Sean Carroll versus Kalamity Kraig, but it should be interesting nonetheless.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:44 pm
by hackenslash

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:27 am
by Collecemall
That was sort of difficult to listen to. I couldn't have remained sane trying to have that conversation. It was clear you did your best but struggled as well. I cringed when her first few sentences included Lee Strobel. But I've been there myself so I get it. When you've never done anything but assume what you learned was true it's hard to get outside that bubble and see that everything you think is real rests on an assumption it's true. If she could ever grasp that one thing it might change things for her. You do the world a service by trying to have these discussions. I don't think it will change her views much but others who tune in might get something to think about.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:36 pm
by hackenslash
That's the hope. I actually thought she did better than I thought she would, but not for any of the reasons she probably thinks she did well.

The biggest problem is that her favourite fallacy - apart from affirming the consequent, which underlies all theistic thinking in some measure - is argumentum ad verecundiam. She knows it's a fallacy, but can't get her head around it.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:59 pm
by Rumraket
This "someone famous converted to theism" thing is ridiculous.

Most of the worlds atheists converted from religion, and most of the worlds theists were raised to be theists before they could reason.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:59 pm
by hackenslash
Aye.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:45 am
by hackenslash
New blog post: The Most Wonderful Time...

http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2017/12/th ... -time.html

Christmas is shit for many people. Exposition, help and advice here.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:22 pm
by Dustnite
I think this is the same woman that provided this classic:


Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:01 pm
by hackenslash
It is indeed.

BTW, new blog post

http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2017/12/wh ... -line.html

A look at attitudes to expertise.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:58 pm
by leroy
hackenslash wrote:New blog post: The Most Wonderful Time...

http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2017/12/th ... -time.html

Christmas is shit for many people. Exposition, help and advice here.


In places like the US, spending your first Christmas as an atheist can be particularly difficult.


In Mexico (at least in my context) Christmas is just an excuse to enjoy with your family and friends, Christmas is not taken as religious event.


Parties, celebrations, advertisements, decorations, etc. are usually non religious. Santa clause is vastly more popular than Christ during this time of the year.

I can’t remember me being in a Christmas celebration where an atheist would feel uncomfortable.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:17 pm
by hackenslash
New blog post:

http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2017/12/gu ... y-and.html

This is a treat with a slightly humorous bent. A marvellous treatment of the history of Linnaean taxonomy by the awesome Calilasseia

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:52 pm
by hackenslash
New:

http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2018/01/7- ... redux.html

A debunking of an 'instant expert' in logical fallacies.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:07 pm
by Akamia
hackenslash wrote:New:

http://www.hackenslash.co.uk/2018/01/7- ... redux.html

A debunking of an 'instant expert' in logical fallacies.

One of your links is broken.

It's in the section dealing with Stephanie's treatment of the Fallacist's Fallacy.

Re: While I Was Away...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:32 am
by hackenslash
Thank you so much. Fixeded.