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Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

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thenexttodie wrote:Which part was that?

Well, do you have the desire to figure it out?

The argument was desire + ability lead to action. Can you figure out which one was missing in your "exemple"?

thenexttodie wrote:You're right. I would be extremely interested in any suggestions you have on how to stop doing that.

Wouldn't you have to lose either the desire or the ability to do so?

Since I don't count on you ever losing your desire to extend your tendecy to do evil to others, or lose your desire to troll, in this forum we'll be stuck with you as long as you have the ability to do those, aren't we.
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The answer to your question is; No, desire and ability do not always lead to action.
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thenexttodie wrote:The answer to your question is; No, desire and ability do not always lead to action.


Can you clarify a bit?
Blunder that theists make all the time;

Pretending to know what other people think.
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Greetings,

Like crime, it requires motive, means, and opportunity.

Kindest regards,

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Steelmage99 wrote:
thenexttodie wrote:The answer to your question is; No, desire and ability do not always lead to action.


Can you clarify a bit?
I don't know. I know that many people deny themselves instant gratification but would probably not be able to easy explain why. So I don't believe that desire and ability always determine action. Might look good on paper but I don't think it applies to human life.
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thenexttodie wrote:I don't know. I know that many people deny themselves instant gratification but would probably not be able to easy explain why. So I don't believe that desire and ability always determine action. Might look good on paper but I don't think it applies to human life.


So because you do not know and do not believe, therefore the argument must be wrong... Then, "looks good on paper" looks more convincing.

You can think about it and put it to tests:

What makes a person take an action (if that person is not constrained)? Consider the caveats mentionned in the first comment.
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thenexttodiePosts: 731Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:59 pm Gender: Male

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MarsCydonia wrote:
So because you do not know and do not believe, therefore the argument must be wrong... Then, "looks good on paper" looks more convincing.

You can think about it and put it to tests:

What makes a person take an action (if that person is not constrained)? Consider the caveats mentionned in the first comment.


Yes I think you are right now. Not sure why I disagreed with you to begin with. I guess I want reject anything which makes me predictable or simplified. Maybe most people do.

Just out of curiosity, was the person you were debating this with a Calvinist?
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thenexttodie wrote:Just out of curiosity, was the person you were debating this with a Calvinist?

He was not.
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