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Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:51 pm
by MarsCydonia
thenexttodie wrote:Which part was that?

Well, do you have the desire to figure it out?

The argument was desire + ability lead to action. Can you figure out which one was missing in your "exemple"?

thenexttodie wrote:You're right. I would be extremely interested in any suggestions you have on how to stop doing that.

Wouldn't you have to lose either the desire or the ability to do so?

Since I don't count on you ever losing your desire to extend your tendecy to do evil to others, or lose your desire to troll, in this forum we'll be stuck with you as long as you have the ability to do those, aren't we.

Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:44 pm
by thenexttodie
The answer to your question is; No, desire and ability do not always lead to action.

Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:20 am
by Steelmage99
thenexttodie wrote:The answer to your question is; No, desire and ability do not always lead to action.


Can you clarify a bit?

Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:58 am
by Dragan Glas
Greetings,

Like crime, it requires motive, means, and opportunity.

Kindest regards,

James

Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:19 pm
by thenexttodie
Steelmage99 wrote:
thenexttodie wrote:The answer to your question is; No, desire and ability do not always lead to action.


Can you clarify a bit?
I don't know. I know that many people deny themselves instant gratification but would probably not be able to easy explain why. So I don't believe that desire and ability always determine action. Might look good on paper but I don't think it applies to human life.

Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:29 pm
by MarsCydonia
thenexttodie wrote:I don't know. I know that many people deny themselves instant gratification but would probably not be able to easy explain why. So I don't believe that desire and ability always determine action. Might look good on paper but I don't think it applies to human life.


So because you do not know and do not believe, therefore the argument must be wrong... Then, "looks good on paper" looks more convincing.

You can think about it and put it to tests:

What makes a person take an action (if that person is not constrained)? Consider the caveats mentionned in the first comment.

Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:30 pm
by thenexttodie
MarsCydonia wrote:
So because you do not know and do not believe, therefore the argument must be wrong... Then, "looks good on paper" looks more convincing.

You can think about it and put it to tests:

What makes a person take an action (if that person is not constrained)? Consider the caveats mentionned in the first comment.


Yes I think you are right now. Not sure why I disagreed with you to begin with. I guess I want reject anything which makes me predictable or simplified. Maybe most people do.

Just out of curiosity, was the person you were debating this with a Calvinist?

Re: Desire and ability lead to action. Or am I off?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:21 pm
by MarsCydonia
thenexttodie wrote:Just out of curiosity, was the person you were debating this with a Calvinist?

He was not.